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To: Zeneta

Be polite and respectful. Praise her desire to seek God and know Him. Pray with her and both of you ask God to reveal any errors about His nature.

I suggest referring to the following Bible passages about knowing God:

John 12:35-45 (NEW WORLD TRANSLATION 2013)
So Jesus said to them: “The light will be among you a little while longer. Walk while you still have the light, so that darkness does not overpower you; whoever walks in the darkness does not know where he is going.
While you have the light, exercise faith in the light, so that you may become sons of light.”
Jesus said these things and went off and hid from them. Although he had performed so many signs before them, they were not putting faith in him, so that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, who said: “Jehovah, who has put faith in the thing heard from us? And as for the arm of Jehovah, to whom has it been revealed?” The reason why they were not able to believe is that again Isaiah said: “He has blinded their eyes and has made their hearts hard, so that they would not see with their eyes and understand with their hearts and turn around and I heal them.” Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory, and he spoke about him. All the same, many even of the rulers actually put faith in him, but they would not acknowledge him because of the Pharisees, so that they would not be expelled from the synagogue; for they loved the glory of men even more than the glory of God. However, Jesus called out and said: “Whoever puts faith in me puts faith not only in me but also in him who sent me; and whoever sees me sees also the One who sent me.”

Pay special attention to verse 41 which says, “Isaiah said these things because he saw his glory, and he spoke about him.” Exactly whom did Isaiah see in His glory? According to John, it was Jesus. But look at the passage being quoted. It is Isaiah 6. And according to Isaiah it is Jehovah whom Isaiah saw in His glory:

Isaiah 6:1-3, 9-10 (NEW WORLD TRANSLATION 2013)
In the year that King Uzziah died, I saw Jehovah sitting on a lofty and elevated throne, and the skirts of his robe filled the temple. Seraphs were standing above him; each had six wings. Each covered his face with two and covered his feet with two, and each of them would fly about with two.
And one called to the other:
“Holy, holy, holy is Jehovah of armies.
The whole earth is filled with his glory.”
...
And he replied, “Go, and say to this people:
‘You will hear again and again,
But you will not understand;
You will see again and again,
But you will not get any knowledge.’
Make the heart of this people unreceptive,
Make their ears unresponsive,
And paste their eyes together,
So that they may not see with their eyes
And hear with their ears,
So that their heart may not understand
And they may not turn back and be healed.”

The passages above are from the Jehovah Witness translation, which is a very poor translation, but in these passages it is still clear that, according to John’s Gospel, Isaiah prophesied that some Jews would have a hardened heart and would not believe in Jesus. John then says that Isaiah wrote these specific prophesies when Isaiah saw Him in His glory. Even in their translation, they admit that Isaiah saw Jesus in His glory. But ask them when this happened. And then look together in Isaiah 6. That is BOTH the chapter John quotes about the Jews being hardened, AND it is the chapter that records Isaiah seeing JEHOVAH in HIS glory.

When you read these two passages together it is very clear that John is saying Jesus is Jehovah.

The passage also makes it clear that coming to the Father is always through His Son Jesus.


82 posted on 05/04/2016 3:55:24 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: unlearner

thank you.

The thing that you posted as well as hints from others is that JW don’t or haven’t fully accepted Christ.

This is new to me and is something I need to understand.


84 posted on 05/04/2016 4:42:56 PM PDT by Zeneta
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