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Our Republic and Our Free Republic
9-6-02 | Joe Phillips

Posted on 09/06/2002 8:17:16 AM PDT by BADJOE

History teaches some very good lessons. They are hard to learn but our forefathers did a great job.

From the beginning of time man has overthrown one form of centralized government only to re-establish another one in its place. Our forefathers understood this far better than anyone ever had. They said governments are the eternal enemy of free men. They said that in order for man to remain free it would take a bloody revolution every other generation, unless you bound down (bastard) government with the chains of the constitution.

On another site this week a poster asked if anyone else hated government as much as he did. I replied to him

"Hell !! I thought you were not a good American if you didn't love our country and hate our government.

At least that is how I have always felt about it"

I think our forefathers had the same attitude that I have now. And I think it is inherent in the average Americans attitude to distrust and have disdain for any government, including ours. One of the hardest conclusions I had to arrive at as a young man, after having been a product of the public school system, was that our government was not on our side. As James Forrestahl, former secretary of the Navy, who suffered a mysterious death, once said about our State Department's foreign policy, " Stupidity is never a mark of consistancy. If they were merely stupid, they would occasionally make a mistake in our favor".

Newt Gringrich put it in a humourous manner when talking about the attitude of Europeans. He related the following story. If you go to Europe and drive on the Autobahn, you feel pretty good cruising down the highway at 100 mph when some some German passes you doing 140 mph. Now he said if the Bundestag passed the 55mph speed limit law, every German would dutifully obey that law, untill the next election. They would vote the 55 mph crowd out of office and the no speed limit crowd in. In America Newt said "A speed limit sign is a benchmark of opportunity.

It is obvious that Yankees and Euros have entirely different attitudes about government's edicts. There are darn few Americans who do not break the speed limit laws everyday.

Now we come to the Free Republic. Once a free wheeling, joyful site for news and discussion of politics, economics, philosophy, ethics and morals. I could not understand the transformation that has taken place in the last six months. Camaraderie, the sense of family, and cooperation seems to have disappeared. Are the Freepers exhibiting the same disdain for the new FR as Americans have for our government?


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To: FreeTheHostages; Mudboy Slim
Top Ten reasons "I'm Still Posting in This Thread" 1) Because I can 2) Because I've laughed and it is fun 3) Because I'm bored (and obviously cannot win, as I'm not a good writer of humor) 4) Because it iritates certain people (My fav!! :o) 5) Because it is working better than ex-lax on those people I don't agree with (I loved the constipation poopy post.. can't remember the words, something about a person needing a colostomy or an enema.. but very funny!!) 5) Because I'm the FREEPARIAN IDOL, (not my suggestion, but another freepers :o) 6) Because I found it less stressful to post humor than to be serious 7) Because I dont' take life so serious as to LOSE sleep over things like this thread was about 8) Because I'm desperate and want the Lynn Cheney book 9) Because, even though I'm not a fan, I'd like to have an autographed Ann Coulter book saying "To my Friend MUD BOY SLIM" "LOVE ANN COULTER". ;o) 10)........ Because as the winner of this game, I can once again hold my head up high, endeavor to fulfill my dreams, and yes,.. BE PRESIDENT one day!!! 11) BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY TO THE TWO PEOPLE WHO WOULD VOTE FOR ME TO WIN (I know, I'm being so Clintoneque!!)
1,081 posted on 09/06/2002 6:45:58 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: TigersEye
guess i feel silly !
thought you were humming a tune with those lyrics
1,082 posted on 09/06/2002 6:46:07 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tpaine
tpaine...

Jim Robinson has a message for you. See Here.

1,083 posted on 09/06/2002 6:46:53 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Howlin
These members will defend their beloved braindead buddy no matter what stupid post he makes. They also attack any member who dares to express an insightful opinion of conservative thought. That would run contrary to Jim Robinson's continual backing of leftist agenda.
FREEP THIS POLL!
Last Issue
This Issue
ASSWIPER
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Jim Robinson
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2
The Old Hoosier
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3
OldFriend
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4
nopardons
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5
Texasforever
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Miss Marple
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Southack
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Kaslin
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Howlin
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Kevin Curry

1,084 posted on 09/06/2002 6:48:02 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: justshe
Hey, if y'all go over there, where apparently the fun is just starting, please tell them about my contest!
1,085 posted on 09/06/2002 6:48:36 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Cultural Jihad
Tpaine's posture isn't quite as sturdy, but the dank, dismal Dickensesque elan and verve is all tpaine.
1,086 posted on 09/06/2002 6:48:59 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Howlin
Might I make a few constructive recommendations? I'm an expert at being a a****** (and it's harder work than the average layperson believes)?

;0)

1,087 posted on 09/06/2002 6:49:49 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: tomkat
Oh right! The Blue Oyster's Cult song. I forgot for a minute. What with hens clucking and all.
1,088 posted on 09/06/2002 6:50:06 PM PDT by TigersEye
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To: Texasforever
Plucked chickens = stewing hens ?
1,089 posted on 09/06/2002 6:50:22 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Texasforever
ROFLMAO........I was JUST looking for that........ROFLMAO!
1,090 posted on 09/06/2002 6:50:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: FreeTheHostages; Mudboy Slim
This is my final entry. It is, really, I swear. And I'm gonna get the countdown right this time too!

TOP 10 REASONS I'M STILL A HAPPY FREEPER...

10. The 'old timers' don't intimidate me anymore.

9. I learn more big words here than I do at Pogo playin' 'Word Whomp.'

8. It beats watchin' Rocky movies with my husband.

7. Sometimes I just wanna be where everybody knows my [screen] name.

6. I haven't yet developed 'unhappy freeper syndrome.'

5.I've learned so much that I feel cleaning dust bunnies is beneath me.

4. I have a mental 'ignore' button.

3. I know I'm right, I don't care what anybody else thinks.

2. I don't think Jimrob owes me anything.

and the number 1 reason I'm still a happy freeper is...

I could never hope to meet a more intelligent, eclectic, colorful group of people and with common sense to boot, than I've run across on FR!

1,091 posted on 09/06/2002 6:51:00 PM PDT by dubyagee
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To: FreeTheHostages; Mudboy Slim
OPPS.. fonts fixed!!! I resubmit!!

Top Ten reasons "I'm Still Posting in This Thread"

1) Because I can

2) Because I've laughed and it is fun

3) Because I'm bored (and obviously cannot win, as I'm not a good writer of humor, but again, its fun!)

4) Because it iritates certain people (My personal fav!! :o)

5) Because it is working better than ex-lax on those people I don't agree with (I loved the constipation poopy post.. can't remember the words, something about a person needing a colostomy or an enema.. but very funny!!)

5) Because I'm the FREEPARIAN IDOL, (not my suggestion, but another freepers earlier in this thread :o)

6) Because I found it less stressful to post humor than to be so dog gone serious every dog gone second

7) Because I dont' take life so serious as to LOSE sleep over things like this thread was about

8) Because I'm desperate and want the Lynn Cheney book

9) Because, even though I'm not a fan, I'd like to have an autographed Ann Coulter book saying "To my Friend MUDBOY SLIM" "LOVE ANN COULTER". ;o)

10)........ Because as the winner of this game, I can once again hold my head up high, endeavor to fulfill my dreams, and yes,.. BE PRESIDENT one day!!!

11) BECAUSE THERE IS A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY TO THE TWO PEOPLE WHO WOULD VOTE FOR ME TO WIN (I know, I'm being so Clintonesque!!)

*FOOTNOTE, with me you got more for your money.. I posted ELEVEN!!! Cheating is such a liberal concept, so as you can see, I have the ability to be Bi-partisan!!

1,092 posted on 09/06/2002 6:51:03 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Texasforever
Hey! How does one get on that lits (to use an old newsfroup term)????
1,093 posted on 09/06/2002 6:52:31 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: tomkat
I just pulled the album out of my collection ... it's "December's foggy freeze". But that's a pretty righteous guitar solo in that song.
1,094 posted on 09/06/2002 6:52:45 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Texasforever; Howlin
Hahaha!!! Howlin, I am ahead of YOU! I am #6!!!!

Everyone, please vote for me. I would consider being #1 in that poll as a badge of homor!!

AND, it will tick those people off, BIG TIME!!!

1,095 posted on 09/06/2002 6:53:16 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: The Old Hoosier; OldFriend; nopardons; Kevin Curry; Miss Marple; Southack; Kaslin
Making sure you see how we're STILL rated!
1,096 posted on 09/06/2002 6:53:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
But this goes to 11... ;0)
1,097 posted on 09/06/2002 6:54:09 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
That is an actual web page from one of the MALCONTENTS.......can you believe a loser would spend their BREATHING time on earth doing a web page like that???
1,098 posted on 09/06/2002 6:55:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: ArneFufkin; BADJOE

Maybe we need to apply Libertarian principles here. How about a harvest bud silent auction? Or a betting office for gladiatorial combat?


1,099 posted on 09/06/2002 6:55:17 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Chad Fairbanks; Howlin
Might I make a few constructive recommendations? I'm an expert at being a a****** (and it's harder work than the average layperson believes)?

With all due respect(?), since you didn't even make the Top 10, what advice could you possibly offer Howlin?

1,100 posted on 09/06/2002 6:55:57 PM PDT by Amelia
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