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To: HairOfTheDog
You seem to enjoy talking about science and comparing different theories about the origins of the earth and the life that resides here. What makes you think kids wouldn't enjoy the same discussion in a high school classroom? - Science can survive discussion, can't it? And so can faith.

You have my full support, provided you clearly mark the distinction between actual science, history of science and speculation that may, or may not, someday precipitate out a science.

I do support discussion of the "ignorant twaddle" theory, if many of the parents of those children believe it to be true, you bet. Parents should not be sending their children to school only to have the school tell them everything they hear from their parents, and their Pastor on Sunday is unquestionably wrong.

Nor should children be hearing from their pastor and parents that their teachers are liars or fools. Unfortunately, if one teaches science, one must eventually make a positive statement constraining the universe in some manner by physical laws which may fall afoul of some parent's teaching. Wiccans are parents, as are flat-earthers and astrologers, and one cannot teach modern science without flatly contradicting flat-earthers, astrologers and wiccans.

Let the scientist's views be known... but we don't have to stop there as if no one else has a theory.

No you don't, but you still don't get to label anything you like as science. So long as theologens stay out of sciences' business no conflict need arise. Nothing about modern science precludes the existence of God. It would be nice if that respect were reciprocated toward modern biology.

258 posted on 09/12/2002 1:23:02 PM PDT by donh
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To: donh
No you don't, but you still don't get to label anything you like as science.

I am a free American citizen. I get to label anything that I want to with any label that I want to. With a little luck, that will become the label that everyone uses, and earlier ones will be forgotten.

259 posted on 09/12/2002 1:29:45 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: donh
Nothing about modern science precludes the existence of God. It would be nice if that respect were reciprocated toward modern biology.

I think you have drawn far more battle-lines than most Christians would. You are the one that says Science can't appear with God on the same page.

There is nothing wrong with a teacher presenting the origination of life by saying that some people believe that life started by itself in a mud puddle billions of years ago. Some people believe God made the mud puddle and caused the life. And some people believe that God created it all in seven days. Now class, what do you think?

262 posted on 09/12/2002 1:35:00 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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