Why men should be able to sue women who lie about who's the daddy

JWR ^ | Nov. 27 , 2002 / 22 Kislev, 5763 | Dan Abrams

[glockmeister40]

Find a good girl who is straight edge, doesn't do drugs, drink , smoke and is faithful.

Yeah, they're out there alright: 5ft 2in tall, 350lbs, drop dead ugly.

I guess we can't have everything.

[BuddhaBoy]

Oh, I IMPLIED. Good grief.

Maybe you have comprehension issues?

[BuddhaBoy]

If you didnt sign one, someone did FOR you, trust me.

[glockmeister40]

Wife lied to him. Fraud. Kid still his. Case closed.

Case not closed. If you are not the biological parent, the kid is not yours.

[FITZ]

I dont remember signing a birth certificate for either of my childeren. Of course that would have been over 30 years ago.

Since that's when child support begins, maybe the man should be required to sign the birth certificate or a DNA test gets done on all the possibilities.

[babygene]

"You implied that no woman is trustworthy enough to marry."

In the context of the implication, BuddhaBoy was correct. Just as it would be fair to imply that "No stock broker or money manager is trustworthy enough to put solely in charge of your current and future finical dealings".

One does not give power of attorney over your life to someone that you are in love with. You see, love is blind.

[glockmeister40]

The simple fact is; men are at a serious disadvantage these days when it comes to a woman scorned. With one word, a woman can have a man removed from his home and restrained from it as well, whether he did anything or not. Now, the courts want men who didnt father children to pay for them, just because they happen to have a buck or two, while ignoring obvious fraud against him. I dont know why any man would want to take that risk until things change.

You are absolutely correct. Does anybody need to wonder why families are going down the tubes? Too much is stacked against men. Only a fool would get married today. Later in life is even worse, especially if you have tangible assets, which a divorce will liquidate.

[Little Bill]

Marrige is a contract one of the items of that contract is that the husband is sole propritor of the wifes vagina, she breaks the contract fraud. My God I am becoming a libertarian, Not.

[BuddhaBoy]

Since that's when child support begins, maybe the man should be required to sign the birth certificate or a DNA test gets done on all the possibilities.

That is exactly what happens now. No man has to sign the birth certificate, even though he will be pressured to do so, if he shows up at the hospital. If the man refuses, there is nothing a woman can do, other than sue the man for support claiming parentage.

It is when the man doesnt know about the court date, and doesnt show up, that the woman recieves a default judgement against him, and then he is screwed. He must go to court and demand paternity tests. Only when they come back negative is he off the hook.

The point is; Fraud-committing mothers and Courts dont want paternity proven, they want it implied so that it can be assigned without delay. (for-the-children) Men should demand paternity tests ALWAYS no matter the harm it might do to the relationship. Better to spare relationships by making DNA tests mandatory. Courts and legislators are against this, because it will open a pandora's box that they would rather keep closed.

[BuddhaBoy]

Careful there, pilgram.

The "Child & Mother Thought-Police" here on this forum will get you for that. LOL!

[babygene]

"If you didnt sign one, someone did FOR you, trust me."

No, that is not the case. When my sone went to get a passport for a business trip about five years ago, he tried to use the only birth certificate that he had, one provided by the hospitial, and it was rejected because it wasn't a "birth certificate". As it turned out, an official birth certificate was never issued by the state of PA.

Incidently, I was one of the lucky ones who married a Gal who stayed home with the kids, sent the kids to private schools,
kids never had a drug or alcahol problem, sent them to college and they both make incomes in the six figures, and as a bonus, I have three beautiful grand children.

Now my wife of 34 years is too old to leave me, and I'm too old to leave her. Life couldn't get any better...

[glockmeister40]

....And if you have to be slightly uncomfortable for a few years in order to make a kid happy, oh well..

Slightly uncomfortable for a few years? Go back on your meds, lady

We need to do it for the children - hillary clinton

[Jim Noble]

>>Marrige is a contract <<

Name me another contract that can be voided by either party without consent, without fault, and without damages.

[IronJack]

The Constitution is a charter, the statement of purpose and intent for this new nation. Taken as a whole, it sends a clear message about the relative strengths and weaknesses of The People and the various houses of government.

It is in effect a manifesto, the death warrant for the Divine Right of Kings, and a declaration that Judeo-Christian principles of equity and fair play had supplanted them. Combined with the Declaration of Independence, these two documents, second only to the Bible, ordained Novus Ordo Seclorum, a "New Order of Nature."

It doesn't get much more social than that.

[Jim Noble]

Sorry for giving you the wrong cite, here's the right one:

"This Court has held that once a State posits a judicially enforceable right of children to support from their natural fathers, the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment prohibits the State from denying that same right to illegitimate children. Gomez v. Perez, 409 U.S. 535 (1973)."

[monday]

"Find a good girl who is straight edge, doesn't do drugs, drink , smoke and is faithful. It's not that hard to do"

Says you. All the girls I meet seem to fall into one of three catagories. Party girls that just want to have fun, career girls who aren't much interested in marriage let alone kids, or girls who are butt ugly. BTW, what is a straight edge girl?

[inquest]

Ah, yes, the equal-protection clause: the Holy Grail of judicial activism.

[wardaddy]

My maternal granny married my 16 year old grandpa at 15. My paternal great grandma married at 14 to a 17 year old. They were country folks...poor but not white trash...they had a certain dignity.

Middle class kids have a lot longer to grow up these days don't they?

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Straight edge is a slang term for someone who doesn't drink/smoke(anything) or do drugs.

[Jim Noble]

>>Party girls that just want to have fun, career girls who aren't much interested in marriage let alone kids<<

these are two phenotypes which converge at age 32-35, with the cry, "Hello, men! I'm ready!!!.