[DWar]

"Ha ha, he slipped up. ID'ers are supposed to pretend that ID doesn't presuppose a God, or some numbnuts thing like that. "


A rational discusion of Intelligent Design DOES DEFINITELY presuppose a preexisting intelligence. That which is designed cannot preexist the designer. Intelligent Design does not necessitate the Christian God for it to have validity or for that matter a god of a supernatural nature. But rather a very powerful, intelligent force which preexisted the material universe.

So taking the God hating emotion out of the discusion...there was no 'slip-up'.

[jlogajan]

A rational discusion of Intelligent Design DOES DEFINITELY presuppose a preexisting intelligence.

Duh! That's why it is such a hoot when I expose these ID'ers as theist and they yell at me for trying to drag "God" into their faux play at "science."

ID is religion, not science.

[Dimensio]

A rational discusion of Intelligent Design DOES DEFINITELY presuppose a preexisting intelligence.

Many ID proponents are quick to assert that the 'intelligent' component of 'Intelligent Design' need not be a 'God'. This is their excuse for pushing its teaching in public schools while still claiming that they're not trying to teach religious beliefs as fact.