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'Intelligent design' theory threatens science classrooms
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 11/22/2002 | ALAN I. LESHNER

Posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000

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Couldn't find this when I did a search, and thought that I would post it, I have been saying this for a long time, yet ID'rs are clueless for some reason.

Oh well, Scientists agree with ME, ID is NOT science.

1 posted on 06/22/2003 5:29:39 PM PDT by Aric2000
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To: PatrickHenry; balrog666; Dimensio; Junior; jennyp; Ichneumon; RadioAstronomer; ...
OK guys, let the fun begin...
2 posted on 06/22/2003 5:32:02 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
Why do you fear alternative theories?

Real science, doesn't.
3 posted on 06/22/2003 5:33:35 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Aric2000
Oh boy! Our very own Taliban in the making. I can't wait until they tell me the earth is really flat and the center of the Universe.
4 posted on 06/22/2003 5:38:04 PM PDT by Arkie2 (It's a literary fact that the number of words wriiten will grow exponentially to fill the space avai)
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To: ALS
What do scientists think of all this? We have great problems with the claim that ID is a scientific theory or a science-based alternative to evolutionary theory. We don't question its religious or philosophical underpinnings. That's not our business. But there is no scientific evidence underlying ID theory.

No relevant research has been done; no papers have been published in scientific journals. Because it has no science base, we believe that ID theory should be excluded from science curricula in schools.



Read ALS, the problem will soon be clear, but I see that you did NOT read it, just spouting off again.

Oh well, why am I NOT surprised.
5 posted on 06/22/2003 5:40:45 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Arkie2
Yep, science should be taught in the science class, NOT religious dogma.
6 posted on 06/22/2003 5:42:00 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: ALS
Evolutionary theory is well-supported by scientific evidence (data). Any alternative to any theory must, to exist as credible to science, have data to support it. ID theory has no scientific data to support it.
7 posted on 06/22/2003 5:48:06 PM PDT by Rudder
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To: ALS
I'm sure that extraterrestrials from Beta Centauri were responsible for life on earth. They've told me so. Do I get to teach that in classrooms?
8 posted on 06/22/2003 5:50:25 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Aric2000
"evolution is a theory, not a fact ....

So is Gravity, Relativity, Quantum Mechanics, Chaos, ....

So9

9 posted on 06/22/2003 5:50:34 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Aric2000
"we"

You keep spewing like you're a scientist.
You aren't, so get off that rag mop pony.

You fear alternative theories. Evolutionists don't even like scientific criticism of evolution taught in schools, eventhough the criticism is brought forth by fellow scientists.

If your crap theory is so true, what's to fear?

Let the total evidence be the judge. If we wanted totalitarinism to reign free in our schools we'd all be voting for Swillary in 2004.
10 posted on 06/22/2003 5:51:56 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: liberallarry
"I'm sure that extraterrestrials from Beta Centauri were responsible for life on earth. They've told me so. Do I get to teach that in classrooms?"

You'll need permission from the eloons first.
11 posted on 06/22/2003 5:52:43 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: Rudder
"ID theory has no scientific data to support it"

Merely an opinion, and a narrow minded one at that.

Worry about proving evolution before you worry about something you admittingly know nothing of.
12 posted on 06/22/2003 5:54:03 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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"But the board's ruling ... suggested that scientists should "continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory."

Nice of them to tell scientists how to do their jobs.

13 posted on 06/22/2003 5:54:21 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Rudder
I don't believe Intelligent Design is a provible theory. However, it does bring up legitimate questions, those mentioned in Darwin's Black Box, which should be addressed in the context of evolutionary theory.
14 posted on 06/22/2003 5:54:42 PM PDT by johnwayne
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To: ALS
Alan I. Leshner is CEO of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and executive publisher of the journal Science; www.aaas.org


Tell that to him... HE wrote the article, I just posted it.

What? You think I wrote this article or something?

Talk about desperate....
15 posted on 06/22/2003 5:55:38 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
The desparation is shown by the fact you felt a need to post it.

Again, what do you fear?
17 posted on 06/22/2003 5:56:29 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.conservababes.com)
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To: ALS
If your crap theory is so true, what's to fear? Let the total evidence be the judge.

No problem. Just get your alternatives through peer review before mandating that they be taught in class. We have to have some standards for education, you know.

18 posted on 06/22/2003 5:56:39 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Aric2000
I agree. If I want religious dogma, I'll go to bible class. If I want science, I'll attend my lectures. And never the twain shall meet.
19 posted on 06/22/2003 5:57:06 PM PDT by Beaker (Toto! Have you been chewing on my slippers again?!)
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To: lilDuce
EXACTLY!!!
20 posted on 06/22/2003 5:57:10 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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