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Marijuana makes you go crazy
Ananova ^ | July 2 2003

Posted on 07/02/2003 2:31:32 PM PDT by rastus macgill

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To: truth_seeker
So for the time of each of their rulings, it IS Constitutional.

You (and another later court) may differ, but your different opinion does NOT carry the weight of their role

So critics of Roe v Wade should just shut up?

61 posted on 07/03/2003 12:57:13 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Wolfie; Ken H; jmc813
Paul B Birkett,
Clinical Lecturer
Longley Centre

Dr Zammit and his colleagues have shown an association between cannabis use and schizophrenia, but as they themselves state, attribution of causality is problematic, not least because of evidence suggesting that those with schizophrenia may have had abnormalities detectable in childhood (1) and therefore predating any cannabis use. There is another difficulty with the proposition that cannabis use causes some cases of schizophrenia; as Rey and Tennant (2) point out, we lack the crucial epidemiological evidence demonstrating the expected increase in incidence of schizophrenia within populations exposed to high levels of cannabis. It is therefore important to carefully consider alternative explanations for the association.

Varma and Sharma (3) found an increased prevalence of cannabis use disorder in the first-degree relatives of schizophrenic probands. Working from the other direction, McGuire et al (4) found that within a sample of patients admitted with acute psychosis, the morbid risk of schizophrenia was increased for the relatives of probands who had tested positive for cannabis on urinary screening. These findings are consistent with the notion of a common genetic risk factor for cannabis abuse and schizophrenia.

By adjusting for abuse of other substances, Zammit et al have concluded that the association between cannabis use and schizophrenia cannot be explained by a general factor predisposing to schizophrenia and all substance misuse, but their findings do not rule out the possibility of a similar risk factor more specific to cannabis use. This paper is a valuable and timely caution to legislators and policy makers, but the case for cannabis as a causative agent in schizophrenia is presently unproven.

1. Jones P, Rodgers B, Murray R, Marmot M. Child development risk factors for adult schizophrenia in the British 1946 birth cohort. Lancet 1994;344(8934):1398-402.

2. Rey JM, Tennant CC. Cannabis and mental health. British Medical Journal Clinical Research Ed. 2002;325:1183-4.

3. Varma SL, Sharma I. Psychiatric morbidity in the first-degree relatives of schizophrenic patients. British Journal of Psychiatry 1993;162:672-8.

4. McGuire PK, Jones P, Harvey I, Williams M, McGuffin P, Murray RM. Morbid risk of schizophrenia for relatives of patients with cannabis- associated psychosis. Schizophrenia Research 1995;15(3):277-81.
62 posted on 07/03/2003 1:07:56 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: MrLeRoy
"So critics of Roe v Wade should just shut up?"

The subject wasn't Roe v Wade. I said nothing about Roe v Wade.

If you want to discuss that topic, go to a thread for that topic.

As to rulings by the USSC, I would say that folks with opposing opinions would be free to discuss their differences.

But to say their "Opinion" IS Constitutional, and the USSC ruling is NOT Constitutional...that was the original topic, if you just didn't read carefully.
63 posted on 07/03/2003 1:42:39 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
So for the time of each of their rulings, it IS Constitutional.

You (and another later court) may differ, but your different opinion does NOT carry the weight of their role

So critics of Roe v Wade should just shut up?"

The subject wasn't Roe v Wade. I said nothing about Roe v Wade.

You spoke about Supreme Court rulings in general, of which Roe v Wade is one.

As to rulings by the USSC, I would say that folks with opposing opinions would be free to discuss their differences.

But to say their "Opinion" IS Constitutional, and the USSC ruling is NOT Constitutional...

When someone says "Roe v Wade is unconstitutional," don't you think they mean that it departs from the plain language and authors' understanding of the Constitution? (That's what I mean when I say it.) Is that not a legitimate statement?

64 posted on 07/03/2003 2:00:05 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: truth_seeker
I'm dropping it. I give up. If this weren't about marijuana but about something else, I suspect you would see the point. No reply needed.
65 posted on 07/03/2003 2:22:54 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Reagan Man
mister thin skin, too bad.

Yes, when called a liar, I am. Reply all you want--I won't acknowledge.

66 posted on 07/03/2003 2:27:01 PM PDT by jammer
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To: Reagan Man
Why do you behave as if you care about the people you openly despise? Do you really want to protect them from the evils of cannibis? Why should you care what they do to themselves? Is it because you fear they may influence you or your children?

If your kids do drugs, then it is you as a parent that has failed. Not society nor the govt. No one but you mom and dad.

Looks to me like you are too lazy to do it yourself, so you want the govt to do your bidding.


Get involved with your kids and get your kids involved. Then you'll have no need to fear the drug dealer.

I oughta know. I am a parent of two drug free adults. They were drug free thru out their adolescent and teen years because I was involved and I involved them in extra curricular activities and I was there for them.

Bottomline, if people want to do dope, it's their business and none of yours lest they criminally trespass you in some measure, then it is your business. Til then, let me suggest you stay out of their homes and their bedrooms. Mind your own business and take care of your own.

67 posted on 07/03/2003 6:19:57 PM PDT by takenoprisoner (stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
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To: Aric2000
>>>You are part of the problem, not the solution.

Far from it. You don't know what your talking about.

You just sit there and spew your impractical idealism, along with firing them no account spitballs from the back row of American politics. It means nothing!

68 posted on 07/03/2003 11:28:12 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Ken H
You've got a bad memory Ken H. I answered your questions a long time ago. May be even twice.
69 posted on 07/03/2003 11:32:56 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: takenoprisoner
>>>Mind your own business and take care of your own.

You want to screw up your own life by doing drugs, feel free. Move to Canada! However, the facts are clear. The issue of decriminalizing and legalizing drugs in America, is a significant social and moral issue. FreeRepublic is a conservative website that exists for people to discuss all manner of issues. If you don't like my opinion, values and beliefs, tough. Its my constitutional right to speak out, if I choose to do so, on this issue or anyother.

Save your pro-drug soapbox rhetoric for someone else.

70 posted on 07/03/2003 11:47:02 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
You want to screw up your own life by doing drugs, feel free.

My life is in order and I don't do drugs. I do freedom. Besides, for all I know you could be an illicit drug dealer arguing to keep your cash cow alive.

Move to Canada!

Why should I have to move to Canada to find freedom?

However, the facts are clear. The issue of decriminalizing and legalizing drugs in America, is a significant social and moral issue.

The only clear facts are that people like yourself will destroy freedom for comfort and security as you measure it.

FreeRepublic is a conservative website that exists for people to discuss all manner of issues.

Brilliant observation. You must be some sort of genius.

If you don't like my opinion, values and beliefs, tough. Its my constitutional right to speak out, if I choose to do so, on this issue or anyother.

If it were just your opinion that would be another matter. But it's your opinion and people who believe as you do that is incrementally taking away all our freedoms. So it's not just a matter of your opinion at issue when "free" folks are going to jail for private behavior just because you don't approve of their private lifestyle.

Save your pro-drug soapbox rhetoric for someone else.

Mine is not a pro drug rhetoric since I am anti drugs. I don't do drugs and I have little tolerance for those who do. I do freedom and believe firmly in individual rights. Including the individual freedom right for adults to do drugs in the privacy of their homes if that is what they wish.

I would say happy independence day, but it's obvious you don't believe in indivdual freedom. If you did, you would have no problem minding your own business and taking care of your own rather than forcing your values upon others who don't necessarily share your values.

Keep in mind I am anti drugs not pro drugs. This is a value we share. A value we don't share is freedom since I am pro freedom and you are anti freedom...that or you're just arguing to keep your war going so you can continue to bank the big bucks.

71 posted on 07/04/2003 11:42:02 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (stand for freedom or get the helloutta the way)
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