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Republicans Against George Bush
Personal Creation | 1/21/04 | Manny Paulet

Posted on 01/21/2004 9:58:05 AM PST by MannyP

REPUBLICANS AGAINST GEORGE BUSH

1. Who are we? We are Americans. We believe in small government, America first, the Constitution, the rule of law, secure borders and competitive capitalism that favor the needs of the average American over the rest of the world.

2. Why are we against President Bush? Chairman of the GOP Gillespie has stated that the GOP does not stand for limited or smaller government and President Bush is acting accordingly. Cutting taxes is a good thing, but not when cutting a single program or entitlement hasn't even been proposed. The opposite is true. New or expanded programs are constantly being proposed by the Bush administration. Since the advent of the Bush administration, government has become a larger and even more intrusive force in our lives. In addition, continued free trade overtures threaten to destroy the economic viability of the average citizen of the United States.

3. What do we want? We want likeminded Americans to vote for the Reform Party candidate for President of the United States and for Republicans in the congressional races? We think that enough people voting for the Reform Party in the presidential election, and doing so publicly AS REPUBLICANS, should cause President Bush to lose. This in turn should create a demand within our party for a President more in line with our principles. If we do this, we must make sure that OUR Republican party hears our message. This makes it twice as important to get every Republican voter that we can get publicly behind this. They must not stay at home for the election. I hope to be able to point to the numbers of people who vote for the Reform Party candidate and tell our Republican leadership that we are the party of small limited government, strong national defense, individual rights, a rule of law and sound economic policies.

4. Do we mean for the Reform Party candidate to win? This is not a goal of this group. We want to create a public demand for a small government GOP without leaving the party.

5. Does this mean that we approve of Dean or any of the other Democratic nominees? No! We explicitly reject the Socialist /Democrat party and think that their actions are causing the decline of this great nation. It is because our beloved GOP is becoming indistinguishable from the Democrats in other than foreign relations arenas that we are undertaking this action.

6. Are there any up-sides to this action in the 2004 election? It is likely that there are many Republicans that are disillusioned with the current administration and Jim Gillespie’s leadership. The likely result is that many will stay home. This could cost us seats and/or control of the House or Senate. If enough people turn out to register this protest vote, we could increase our majority.

7. Do we have any specific long term goals? If President Bush loses due to our efforts, it is our hope that our party leadership will enact a platform more in line with our traditional Republican principles. The next candidate should also be more concerned with sound domestic policies.

8. How many people would it take to accomplish our objective? According to recent election results, a few thousand in just a few states could change the result of a presidential election.

9. What happens if we do not succeed? If Bush wins in 2004, after eight years of growing government and spending, the average Republican will be dispirited and stay away from the polls just like what happened to his father. Also, the people will be tired of a war on terrorism that can’t end and the strength of foreign policy will not sustain the next candidate either. (Remember; “Its the economy stupid” ?) Facing increasing debt, a lack of meaningful employment, and a dispirited/divided Republican Party, Hillary/Bayh will likely be elected. Strengthened by eight years in opposition, the Democrats will be united and will show up to the polls for Hillary/Bayh. To those who claim that it can't happen, I would refer you to those of us who said Bill would never get elected or reelected and those who said that New York would never elect Hillary. Does it still seem so far fetched? How many Republicans have you met who are really excited about the direction of Bush's domestic policy?

10. What’s in it for R.A.G. BUSH? When we pledge allegiance to the “Republic”, we do so not to any politician or party, but rather to the republican system of limited government set up in the Constitution. We consider socialism and tyranny in all of its forms an enemy to be conquered and not one to compromise with. We get to do something to try to keep freedoms lamp lit in America. We want our children to know the greatness of the United States, not experience its decline. Enough people talk about all the things that are wrong, let’s do something. In 2008, we want to help elect a strong Republican president who stands for the things that we value and who will face the ineptitude of one of the eight candidates that are currently contesting the Democratic nomination. We have faith in our fellow Americans. If our purpose is righteous and Americans united, who can stand in our way?

"This idea that government was beholden to the people, that it had no other source of power is still the newest, most unique idea in all the long history of man's relation to man. This is the issue of this election: Whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American Revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capital can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves. You and I are told we must choose between a left or right, but I suggest there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down. Up to man's age-old dream-the maximum of individual freedom consistent with order or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism. Regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would sacrifice freedom for security have embarked on this downward path." Reagan (1964)


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To: MannyP
Manny you are going to get a LOT of criticism for this because you are not being one of Karl Rove's good little pod people and saying "Thank You, May I Have Another?" as big spending and amnesty for illegals is being shoved down your throat.

You get an A for courage of conviction. I am sick and tired of NeoCons like Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved, and the ususal suspects smirking at us and saying, "where else will you go?" Absent a candidate who will protect our borders, *I* will be absent from the polls this November.

Here in Southern California we have a primary opponent to face David Drier, a Bush sycophant and amnesty supporter. It's a start. Until these RINOs pay a price with some defeats -- or an electoral scare, they will NOT listen to us.

Thanks for your post.

21 posted on 01/22/2004 11:00:34 AM PST by Delta-Tango
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To: MannyP
The truth is, there are MANY of us in this forum who agree with you and many of us have stated it and have been bashed to no end because you also "think for yourself" which is a NO-NO here because you're supposed to fall in line and march to the beat. We've heard the BS and we've seen the BS, and it's time to move on because as you, I don't like what's happened to our country since Bush took over and what he's fed us, his supporters. We will not be voting for him again.
22 posted on 01/22/2004 11:55:53 AM PST by Bella
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To: MannyP
Where do I sign up for this group?
23 posted on 01/22/2004 12:44:51 PM PST by FirstPrinciple
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To: MannyP
Terrible idea to give illegals "guest worker" status?
Yes.
Terrible idea to add a Medicare drug benefit?
Yes.
Out of control domestic spending?
Yes.

However....How many of you Republicans against Bush think that you would have gotten a tax cut under President Gore?
How many of you Repubs against Bush think the partial birth abortion ban would have happened under Gore?
And now you wish Kerry or some other socialist defeats Bush?
Madness!
24 posted on 01/22/2004 3:38:24 PM PST by logcabin
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To: logcabin
Out of control domestic spending?
Yes.

How about out of control spending .
Yes.

25 posted on 01/22/2004 5:03:00 PM PST by Kudsman
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To: FirstPrinciple
"Where do I sign up for this group?"

They will be meeting monthly in the nearest phone booth. No hurry, though, there will always be room for you.

26 posted on 01/22/2004 6:40:47 PM PST by Russ
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To: Retired COB
http://67.123.152.89/dm/My%20Heros%20Have%20Always%20Been%20Cowboys.htm

27 posted on 01/22/2004 7:10:31 PM PST by timesarechangin (Religious freedom is a lot more than just attending worship service of my choice)
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To: MannyP
6. This could cost us seats and/or control of the House or Senate. If enough people turn out to register this protest vote, we could increase our majority.

You wanna bet??

I'll bet it would sink your party for good

28 posted on 01/22/2004 7:47:12 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: MannyP; gatorbait; BigSkyFreeper; Neets; nopardons; Texasforever; MEG33

91% of Republicans are "with" President Bush.

Bush enjoys the highest approval rating at this point in his term since Dwight Eisenhower's in 1956.

Incidentally, I am one of the 91%.
29 posted on 01/22/2004 7:49:06 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: Russ
LMAO! Good one. :)
30 posted on 01/22/2004 7:50:05 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: MannyP
BUSH/CHENEY 04.......FOR THE SAKE OF THE NATION
31 posted on 01/22/2004 7:53:39 PM PST by MEG33
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To: Jim Robinson
FYI
32 posted on 01/22/2004 7:57:40 PM PST by MEG33
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To: onyx

91% of Republicans are "with" President Bush.

I'm also part of the 91%

The other 9% comprise the base of an upside down triangle:

33 posted on 01/22/2004 8:21:38 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; My2Cents; nopardons; PhiKapMom
Excellent! Important to keep reminding the malcontents and pouting purists how utterly insignificant they are.
34 posted on 01/22/2004 8:33:16 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: RunningJoke; levotb
At this point, I'm considering to vote a Democrat(leftist) in as President.

Eating a bullet to cure a tension headache.... brilliant.

35 posted on 01/22/2004 8:35:12 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: BigSkyFreeper; onyx
Nice tag ;-)
36 posted on 01/22/2004 8:36:44 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: MannyP
If President Bush loses due to our efforts, it is our hope that our party leadership will enact a platform more in line with our traditional Republican principles

That is if we survive a leftist peacenik in the White House for 4 to 8 years, John F'ing Kerry likely to be the Demonrat annointed.

37 posted on 01/22/2004 8:56:22 PM PST by luvbach1
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To: MannyP
If Bush gets re-elected and does a decent job, Hittlery will not be elected.
38 posted on 01/22/2004 8:58:47 PM PST by luvbach1
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To: luvbach1; MannyP
Yep.... I guess it's our duty to put Kerry-Flies-The-Flag-Upside-Down in the White House... for the sake of America.


39 posted on 01/22/2004 9:02:54 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: Tamsey; onyx
onyx inspired it for me. LOL

I had been going without a tag for over two years until a few nights ago. :)

40 posted on 01/22/2004 9:03:26 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (All Our Base Are Belong To Dubya)
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