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President Bush is Pro-Life in Name Only
CHRISTIAN PATRIOTS FOR LIFE ^ | 1-16-05 | Kevin Jeanfreau

Posted on 01/16/2005 1:54:25 PM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: M 91 u2 K

Excellent points.


141 posted on 01/17/2005 7:56:43 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of The Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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To: M 91 u2 K; cpforlife.org; Mr. Silverback; Ed Current
The only way for the holocaust of abortion to be stopped in this country is by increments.

There is no magic wand. The President is not a dictator who can singlehandedly overturn Roe v. Wade with a snap of his fingers.

He has done much to turn back this tide of evil in subtle ways that are not resulting in histrionics from the left.

Planned Parenthood knows that President Bush is pro-life because to them, he is public enemy #1. Pro-Life organizations throughout the country also know that electing President Bush was critical to the continued movement of America to a culture of life, which is why they backed his election so strongly.

Extremism on this issue will result in loss. If nothing is accomplished by extreme rhetoric and impossible goals, then is it not preferable to continue to move in the direction President Bush has taken us.

Embryos are now called human, pre-born babies are given human rights, the horror of PBA is now illegal.

Progress is preferable to backlash.......unless, of course, the goal is to make noise, and not really save lives.

What IS the goal here?

142 posted on 01/17/2005 11:15:59 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: ohioWfan
PBA Ban was passed and overturned yea this slow moderation is making such progress.

It took what about 30 years to convience our Congress that Baby's born halfway should not be cut up and then in 30 seconds a Judge overturned it.

WE need an amendment now!

143 posted on 01/17/2005 11:25:26 AM PST by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K
It took what about 30 years to convience our Congress that Baby's born halfway should not be cut up and then in 30 seconds a Judge overturned it.

No. It didn't.

It took 30 years to have a Congress AND A PRO-LIFE PRESIDENT to get it signed.

Your characterization of President Bush as a poll-watching do-nothing moderate is inaccurate, as is your citing of this time frame.

Please try to be accurate with your facts, and your arguments will ring truer.

I agree that this is a national crisis, but I also believe that the American public's minds about abortion are being changed with increased information about what is happening, and the realization that these are human babies being slaughtered, and not 'tissue,' and a President who is moving us steadily back to being a culture of life in a number of areas.

The tide is turning, lives are being saved, and angry rhetoric, IMO, will do more harm than good.

144 posted on 01/17/2005 11:42:13 AM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: ohioWfan
President Bush has 4 years left and then what if a Democrat or RINO gets elected?

The Civil Rights movement had put pressure on both Republican and Democrat administrations.

It seems everything Bush is doing will be overturned if a Democrat or RINO gets elected in 2008. Everytime we get a Pro-life President all his work is undone by the next Pro-Abort President such as after 12 years of Reagan-Bush came Clinton and everything they did was undone.

This cycle cannot keep going for it is leading the PRo-Life movement nowhere.

145 posted on 01/17/2005 12:35:09 PM PST by M 91 u2 K
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To: M 91 u2 K
I agree.

The last four years has seen the first REAL progress to end abortion in the last 30 (regardless of the party of the President).

Four things are apparent to me.

1. Work with this President towards permanent changes to make most abortions illegal.

2. Elect another pro-LIFE President in 2008, then another and another, and another.

3. Keep working to educate the American public about what abortion really is, and how few are done for the sake of the health/life of the mother and awaken the sleeping consciences of most Americans.

4. Keep PRAYING!

146 posted on 01/17/2005 12:42:10 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Ed Current
No
More
War...
Against
the
Unborn!

147 posted on 01/17/2005 1:01:51 PM PST by Lexinom (www.revotewa.com - Go DINO! www.illegitimategovernor.com)
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To: Ed Current
Well, the moderator pulled your post, so I would expect the evidence was dubious.

Go back and read that list I posted of all the "sins" Planned Parenthood holds against the President. Then ask yourself, if you did all that stuff and somebody told you that you were a pro-choicer, would you think they had their head screwed on right? I think not.

148 posted on 01/17/2005 2:57:22 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: Lexinom
I agree with you. What amazes me about this thread is that cp has made it his mission to promote pro-life ed as the only way that we will defeat abortion, but then he expects the politicians to defeat it instead. Huh?
149 posted on 01/17/2005 2:59:22 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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To: ohioWfan

Exactly right.


150 posted on 01/17/2005 3:20:39 PM PST by recalcitrant
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To: cpforlife.org

I nominate this thread as a 9.0 on the dumb, unappeasable scale.


151 posted on 01/17/2005 3:23:34 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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To: Ed Current; Admin Moderator; jimrob

"Those of us who supported George W. Bush and elected him to office may be responsible for the bloodshed that he perpetuated, "



I believe this is outright abuse of the forum
imho. accusing the president of murder and bloodshed.

In fact, I believe the title is intentional flame bait to draw off followers to the original posters blog site.


It's akin to the DU posting via their trolls 'bush lied, troops died' and then posting links to their blog.
Would we allow that?

I doubt it.


152 posted on 01/17/2005 3:27:41 PM PST by recalcitrant
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To: recalcitrant

He's been Zotted.
Jim


153 posted on 01/17/2005 3:28:55 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: rwfromkansas

they recklessly convict the president of murder, and child abuse of the most heinous and wicked kind... without a trial.

such viscious and deceitful slander should not be tolerated.


154 posted on 01/17/2005 3:35:24 PM PST by recalcitrant
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To: Mr. Silverback

With all due respect, have you lost your bloody mind?



Apparently he or she has.

Some folks would bomb clinics if they could get away with it.

YOUR list is great.


155 posted on 01/17/2005 3:40:38 PM PST by recalcitrant
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To: Jim Robinson; recalcitrant
I think this may be appropriate here...... :o)


156 posted on 01/17/2005 3:41:23 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you.
The President hasn't even been inaugurated to his second term, and it seems to be 'burn him at the stake' time already for some folks.

I STRONGLY disagree with the president on more than a few issues. But the 'baby killer' style of rhetoric, is way over the top.

To be honest with you, I have TROUBLE with the thread title and the vanity nature of the self-plugging blogger who posted it.

I want babies to live, I am just not willing to throw the most 'prolife' president in our lifetime to the 'clinic bomber' types...

This kind of rhetoric is NOT helpful and in fact dangerous to the cause.

God bless.


157 posted on 01/17/2005 3:52:09 PM PST by recalcitrant
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To: recalcitrant; Ed Current
What's most pathetic is that this type of hate-filled rhetoric is done in the name of LIFE.

It is my opinion that Satan uses people like this, masquerading as pro-lifers, to defeat the real goal of saving the lives of the unborn.

It is easy for the vast majority of Americans to dismiss a movement populated by nutcases...........and IMO, those who say that this President is pro-Life in name only fit that description.

I thank God daily for the man of HIS choosing who is so honorably leading this nation back to being a culture of life. And I wonder if those who don't recognize that aren't the real ones who are pro-life in name only.

158 posted on 01/17/2005 4:18:11 PM PST by ohioWfan (W.........STILL the President!!)
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To: cpforlife.org

President Bush signing the first ever federal repeal of abortion

You kill me. Are you so dense that you think that sheer brute force will reverse Roe v Wade?

First, we have to pass a "test case" law that is so limited, so narrow, so Constitutionally perfect that we can get a favorable Supreme Court ruling. That step was accomplished with President Bush signing our ban on Partial Birth Abortion (something that your organization couldn't manage to get done).

Next, we have to add at least two new conservative Supreme Court Justices. Putting a test case in front of the existing left-wing court, now that Sandra Day O'Conner has flipped sides, would actually SET BACK our pro-life efforts by another generation.

This means that *anyone*, especially people like you, who favors bringing Roe v Wade challenges now, before we've changed the personnel on the Supreme Court, is actually someone who is pursuing a path that will HARM ALL PRO-LIFE EFFORTS.

Moreover, attacking President Bush for "not being pro-life" when President Bush has made numerous pro-life moves (see below), leads one to believe that you are actually a left-wing troll wearing right-wing attire.

Banned Partial Birth Abortion

Reversed Clinton's move to strike Reagan's anti-abortion Mexico Policy

Stopped foreign aid that would be used to fund abortions.

Supported and upheld the ban on abortions at military hospitals

Signed E.O. reversing Clinton's policy of not requiring parental consent for abortions under the Medical Privacy Act


159 posted on 01/17/2005 4:30:30 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: recalcitrant
YOUR list is great.

Thank you. And the best part is, not one pro-lifer's precious time was taken up compiling it! Life is sweet when the enemy does your work for you.

160 posted on 01/17/2005 6:14:07 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Women need abortion like a fish needs a bicycle.)
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