Posted on 01/28/2005 8:23:00 AM PST by crushkerry
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Let's worry about getting through this Presidency first. We need to keep the GOP on track and turning the campaign promises into realities.
Why we are worried about 2008 I'll never know. McCain could be dead for all we know by 2008
If John Mcpain runs for the GOP Iwouldseriouslt think of voting Democrat as long as it isnt Hillary or Kerry.
And he'll finnish lower than Bob Graham.
He's been there, done that.
That horse can't run. ;)
Interesting.
All he has to do is convince people to vote for him.
I would be horrified if he was the Republican candidate...he is a RINO, and probably more liberal than some liberals!
he's not more liberal then Hillary.
Blah blah blah BS punditry.
It'll be the two Virginia ex-govs, George Allen (R) vs. Mark Warner (D).
None of these current bigmouthed, divisive, controversial losers in the Senate will get another chance at the Presidency (Sen. George Allen having none of the foregoing liabilities).
And I don't have any idea how Warner will keep his name in the spotlight until 2008.
Four years is a long time. One good snap in his synapes, and John McQueeg might implode by that time. And unfortunately, his does have skin cancer. That might get him, too.
its Hillary.
Start thinking about voting for McCain, because our party stands for nothing if it allows Hillary and Bill to walk back into the oval office.
That is a good point...I mean, I would NEVER vote for a RAT, and as a New Yorker, I detest Hitlery, so yes, if it came down to it, I would have to go with McCain. Let's just hope that it doesn't get to that point!
Too bad W can't run again :(
Hitlery doesn't stand a chance. Ain't gonna' happen.
Time will tell, obviously, but I don't see McCain doing well in 2008, if he decides to run at all.
Gipper08 suggested a Mike Pence
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I also like Condi Rice and am a conservative older white guy. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat and campaign for her or Pence or Tancredo.
But I share your concerns for 2008.
I doubt if any REAL conservative southerner would NOT vote for Rice merely because she is black. Philosophy trumps race in America today among most intelligent people, thank God. And where it doesn't she would pick up women's votes and black votes. Even a seductive jerk like Jessie Jackson would have a hard time trying to tell black Americans not to vote for the first Black President in American history. I think she would be a perfect choice - if she wants it and doesn't drop the ball as Secretary of State.
As for Jeb, well, I've had it with Bushes. George II was a total jerk and George III gave me too much aggrevation with his close wins. I couldn't survive another experience like that again.
But NEVER, under ANY circumstances would I vote for a Rino like McCain, Giuliani, etc. I would go out and vote for Hillery first.
By helping put RINOs in power we are undercutting the only alternative we have to the leftists in American politics.
Well, for what it's worth, most people around here probably regard McCain as certifiably insane, as well as a kind of Manchurian stealth candidate. Certainly I do. He is widely loved by the leftist media, and for good reason.
If it was a choice of hillary or McCain, I might vote for McCain, but I'd really have to think very hard about it. Needless to say, that's not because I love hillary. But McCain is about the worst candidate for president I can think of. We might actually be better off with hillary.
I'm not sure I agree with your estimate of the situation, although I certainly worry about who would be a credible alternative. McCain would have the instant and eager support of all the media, as he did in 2000. But he would also face the instant and passionate opposition of most true conservatives. I suspect, too, that some equivalent of the Swift Boat group might finally stand up and say what military people really think about him after his betrayal of the POW/MIAs, not to speak of other problems.
McCain deeply offended the religious right with that stupid Bob Jones business he tried to work in complicity with the media. Fortunately it backfired. If he runs, millions of Evangelicals are pretty certain to stay home in November.
John McCain makes Howard Dean look sane and sensible. If it were a choice between the two of them I'd have to think hard. Probably I would just stay home, as would several millions of other voters and most of the volunteers who worked so effectively last November.
She has a very good chance of winning the demo nomination.
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