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Let's worry about getting through this Presidency first. We need to keep the GOP on track and turning the campaign promises into realities.
Why we are worried about 2008 I'll never know. McCain could be dead for all we know by 2008
If John Mcpain runs for the GOP Iwouldseriouslt think of voting Democrat as long as it isnt Hillary or Kerry.
And he'll finnish lower than Bob Graham.
He's been there, done that.
That horse can't run. ;)
Interesting.
All he has to do is convince people to vote for him.
I would be horrified if he was the Republican candidate...he is a RINO, and probably more liberal than some liberals!
Blah blah blah BS punditry.
It'll be the two Virginia ex-govs, George Allen (R) vs. Mark Warner (D).
None of these current bigmouthed, divisive, controversial losers in the Senate will get another chance at the Presidency (Sen. George Allen having none of the foregoing liabilities).
And I don't have any idea how Warner will keep his name in the spotlight until 2008.
Four years is a long time. One good snap in his synapes, and John McQueeg might implode by that time. And unfortunately, his does have skin cancer. That might get him, too.
Time will tell, obviously, but I don't see McCain doing well in 2008, if he decides to run at all.
Gipper08 suggested a Mike Pence
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I also like Condi Rice and am a conservative older white guy. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat and campaign for her or Pence or Tancredo.
But I share your concerns for 2008.
I doubt if any REAL conservative southerner would NOT vote for Rice merely because she is black. Philosophy trumps race in America today among most intelligent people, thank God. And where it doesn't she would pick up women's votes and black votes. Even a seductive jerk like Jessie Jackson would have a hard time trying to tell black Americans not to vote for the first Black President in American history. I think she would be a perfect choice - if she wants it and doesn't drop the ball as Secretary of State.
As for Jeb, well, I've had it with Bushes. George II was a total jerk and George III gave me too much aggrevation with his close wins. I couldn't survive another experience like that again.
But NEVER, under ANY circumstances would I vote for a Rino like McCain, Giuliani, etc. I would go out and vote for Hillery first.
By helping put RINOs in power we are undercutting the only alternative we have to the leftists in American politics.
Well, for what it's worth, most people around here probably regard McCain as certifiably insane, as well as a kind of Manchurian stealth candidate. Certainly I do. He is widely loved by the leftist media, and for good reason.
If it was a choice of hillary or McCain, I might vote for McCain, but I'd really have to think very hard about it. Needless to say, that's not because I love hillary. But McCain is about the worst candidate for president I can think of. We might actually be better off with hillary.
I'm not sure I agree with your estimate of the situation, although I certainly worry about who would be a credible alternative. McCain would have the instant and eager support of all the media, as he did in 2000. But he would also face the instant and passionate opposition of most true conservatives. I suspect, too, that some equivalent of the Swift Boat group might finally stand up and say what military people really think about him after his betrayal of the POW/MIAs, not to speak of other problems.
McCain deeply offended the religious right with that stupid Bob Jones business he tried to work in complicity with the media. Fortunately it backfired. If he runs, millions of Evangelicals are pretty certain to stay home in November.
John McCain makes Howard Dean look sane and sensible. If it were a choice between the two of them I'd have to think hard. Probably I would just stay home, as would several millions of other voters and most of the volunteers who worked so effectively last November.
I think McCain will be a little old in 2008. Equally worrisome is the health issue. The re-occurence of the cancer on his face required major surgery.
I agree wholeheatedly with your policy differences with McCain. Too buddy-buddy with some egregious leftists such as J. Effin Kerry. And there's that Keating Five ghost in his past which might make for a whopping October Surprise.
I'll vote for whoever the Democrat is over McCain.
I'd rather have an enemy whose behavior I can count on than an ally I can never trust.
McCain would be pro-gun control, he is already anti-free speech (McCain-Feingold), pro-illegal immigrant, pro-UN, pro-socialist, and (not least of all) he's almost as pro-Democrat as Jim Jeffords.
If the USA will elect George Bush then we do not have to put up a traitor like McCain to attract Democrat voters.
We need a REAL Republican in the 2008 race.
John McCain is not a real Republican and he proves it every time he opens his mouth.
Does anyone know Kyl's feelings on immigration? For example, did he support the initiative to restrict benefits for illegals?
Although McCain would win the Republican primary by default.
There is still time for Conservatives to get behind a candidate to defeat McCain but the time is quickly running out.