Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.

World Net Daily ^ | July 11, 2005 | Joseph Farrah

[peacebaby]

yes, you are correct. I've screwed my level head back on....

[GarySpFc]

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

Suitcase nukes are a high maintaince item, and if they were built in 1988 they would not be dangerous at this time.

[USA Girl]

As for Farah's sources, he mentions this in the article:

"But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant."

So he's not making it up out of thin air.

Some of the comments on this thread remind me of the scoffers in Noah's day.

The bottom line is that one day something is going to happen and even Farah admits it might be as long as 10 years away. No one really knows, but it could be sooner than later - so he's sounding the alarm. It's more than you'll get from the mainstream media fluffheads.

[petitfour]

Yup. Next thing he'll suggest is that groups of four-five Arabic men will hijack planes and fly them into big buildings. How likely is that?

While it does seem unlikely that terrorists will blow up a bunch of dirty bombs in US cities, do you want to be walking down the street in the city where they succeed???

[ßuddaßudd]

flag to read later

[whitecastle1968]

hahahhahHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHWEHEHEHEHEHhehehehEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHHH.... yet another AQ nuke story... dear lord... common sense says that they would have been used by now if they had them - most likely in their opening salvo - take out the entire congress, courts, military leaders and executive branch at the state of the union address.... for the last time AQ HAS NO NUKES!!!!!!

[Mr. Mojo]

nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

Frankly, I really don't care about cheap lettuce if it's going to be radioactive.

[Mr. Mojo]

Strange. ....WorldNetDaily articles usually aren't sent to the "bloggers/personal" section.

[tx_eggman]

." Why do you think this? Could AQ not already have some nukes in place but want to wait until more are in place or even wait until the moon is in the right place?

One or two is all it would take for the U.S. to slip into chaos - or at least cease to exist as we know it ... and whatever place the moon has to be in to be "right", it's been there 3 or 4 times already since 9-11.

[USA Girl]

Having lived in a hurricane area I've seen firsthand how most people sit back in denial until the last minute. More people evacuated with Hurricane Dennis than with the last big one. Some people have to suffer before learning I guess.

Sad.

I hope some of you wake up.

I know it's hard to face modern-day realities when you're popping beer and nuts while watching evening sitcoms though.

Hey, pass the popcorn - eat, drink and be merry.

[coffee260]

WOW! After reading some posts from some people on this thread has me wondering if they aren't being made from by Britains'highbrow elites. Need I remind the "laissez-faire" folks how 911 happened?

[mercy]

How in heck did Farah get a hold of next years 24 script? Keefer's gonna be pissed.

[nwctwx]

Dr. Abdul Kadeer Khan (former head Pak. nuclear scientist) and his associates have spread the word throughout many regions we would have rather they not share sensitive nuclear information with. Fortunately, the word got out after the invasion of Afghanistan... one of the few successes in the WOT IMO, along with the Libyan decision to tell us about their WMD ambitions. A man by the name of Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood, one of AQ Khan's top associates is known to have met with bin Laden and Zawahri several times, most likely including the morning of 9/11. Their discussion: The benefits of detonating a nuclear weapon on U.S. soil.

Now, prior to 9/11 AQ was likely already seeking material or suitcase nukes... there have been several stories about this, the authenticity is unknown, but many experts (including Michael Scheuer - former head of the CIA bin Laden unit) believe the tales to be legit. So, if they had the material/weapon, why not use it? Simple... the time was not right, and they wanted to give America the chance to save itself (or at least the appearance of that chance) from what they believe is the inevitable destruction of our country.

Bin Laden took some heat from different circles that he did not give us enough warning of 9/11. There was never a legal ruling, or fatwa, issued against the U.S. by anyone other than himself... and he is not a cleric. Since 9/11, bin Laden and his top aides have been meticilously laying out their reasoning for the attacks, and have given us ways to prevent a future... more catastrophic one. Last year, when Imperial Hubris came out, Scheuer stated the following on CBS' 60 Minutes.

"He [bin Laden] secured from a Saudi sheik named Hamid bin Fahd a rather long treatise on the possibility of using nuclear weapons against the Americans. Specifically, nuclear weapons," says Scheuer. "And the treatise found that he was perfectly within his rights to use them. Muslims argue that the United States is responsible for millions of dead Muslims around the world, so reciprocity would mean you could kill millions of Americans."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/12/60minutes/main655407.shtml

So, at this point... it would seem that it would be legitimate for AQ to use a nuke.

Now, does AQ really have the capability? Who knows for sure, but there is certainly enough material floating around out there for trained scientists to put together a crude nuclear weapon. Would these scientists, largely Pakistani Muslims, use their know how to create a device, or service an old one, for AQ to use? Good question. We could look back to Kadeer Khan who said, "All Western countries, including Israel, are not only the enemies of Pakistan but, in fact, of Islam. (Link)" Rhetoric, or a true statement? I guess we will find out someday.

As far as Pak/Russian scientists working for AQ... several sources have claimed this to be true as well, including a book I read (linked in the last paragraph) called Osama's Revenge. Here are some quotes:

"But Pakistan's community of nuclear scientists and technicians remains "profoundly fundamentalist" and anti-American. They remain particularly resentful of the economic and military sanctions against Pakistan's nuclear weapons program that were imposed by the Bush Administration following the discoveries of proliferation."

"Intelligence sources have confirmed that SPETSNAZ officials from the former Soviet Union were on bin Laden's payroll from 1996 to 2001 to maintain and prepare the nuclear suitcases for activation. Moreover, following the invasion of Afghanistan and the loss of his laboratories, bin Laden reportedly sought out and obtained the technical assistance of twelve leading Pakistani scientists, including Dr. Sultan Bashiruddin Mahmood, Dr. Chaudry Abdul Najid, and Dr. Mirza Ysus Baig. On November 25, 2001, Taliban leader Mullah Omar assured BBC reporters that the nuclear destruction of the United States was well underway. 'The plan is going ahead and, God Willing, it is being implemented. But it is a huge task, which is beyond the will and comprehension of human beings. If God's help is with us, this will happen within a short period of time; keep in mind this prediction."

http://www.ianlivingston.com/archived/2004/osamasrevenge_july14.htm

I'll finish this post with a quote from another good article on the subject... it goes into the relatively simple process of creating a nuclear weapon these days, as well as other general information:

Before and after the 2004 elections, Osama bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al Zawahiri issued "final chance" warnings to Americans that some watchers have interpreted as an Islamic gesture made in order to justify the future use of weapons of mass destruction. (Al Qaeda was criticized by some radical clerics for not issuing such a warning before 9/11.) As for which kind of weapons might be used, two al Qaeda-linked militants captured by German intelligence in January were recorded discussing locations at which uranium could be acquired. While it's nice to know this particular cell was still looking, they weren't the first to seek such a purchase, and they won't be the last.

http://www.nypress.com/print.cfm?content_id=13225

[sheltonmac]

This can't be true. Bush assured us he would "take the fight to the enemy." And let's not forget that "the world is safer today because, in Iraq, our coalition ended a regime that cultivated ties to terror while it built weapons of mass destruction."

[billbears]

From the articles linked in #72

1st
the authenticity is unknown, but many experts (including Michael Scheuer - former head of the CIA bin Laden unit) believe the tales to be legit.

2nd
Now, does AQ really have the capability? Who knows for sure, but there is certainly enough material floating around out there for trained scientists to put together a crude nuclear weapon.

3rd
. While it's nice to know this particular cell was still looking, they weren't the first to seek such a purchase

Standard Faux News reporting tactic. Can't prove it? Scare 'em anyway. And to top it off what started the thread is a Farah article from World Nut Daily

Sorry but I highly doubt the viability of these 'expert' opinions. Wonder if these are the same 'experts' that were relied on for intel on the invisible WMDs?

[Antonello]

What I find amazing is that as far as I can tell, no one has actually seen a Soviet 'suitcase nuke'. Yes, there have been reports that people 'know they exist' and that they are 'available on the black market'. But everything about them stems from the 1997 warning from a retired Soviet national security official, Lt. Gen. Alexander Ivanovich Lebed, and even he never produced any specifics about them.

Even the cute little picture on the cover of Paul William's 'exposé' is nothing more than a CIA-created mock-up used as a prop during a congressional hearing in 2000 that starred a former Soviet spy. Yet even he could not produce any supporting evidence that such a device even existed; only the testimony that he was to set up 'dead drops' for them. He could only say that the 'Soviet general staff designed special plan for the future war against America'.

Now I ask you - if Al Qaeda did actually posses one of these, can you imagine any reason at all why they wouldn't exploit the amount of havoc they could wreak simply by releasing a photo of it? Perhaps they used up all their film recording all their 'death to America' speeches?

[sheltonmac]

Kind of reminds me of the Y2K scare.

[Lazamataz]

Well, the good news is, I saved money on my car insurance with GEICO.

[BluH2o]

The question that begs for an answer ... if these nuclear devices are in the U.S. why haven't they been used? Have we warned Islamic extremists that if they nuke a U.S. city Mecca will be turned into a fireball so intense that it will be nothing more than a large glob of glass when it's over?

[ValenB4]

Joe Farah is looking forward to Armageddon a bit too much.