London bombing explosive traced to Balkan Muslim extremists

Serbianna.com ^ | july 12, 2005 | zagor-te-nej

[joan]

Even your site has a story on a Bosnian Muslim - from Srebrenica no less - who went to fight in Croatia's war the year before the Bosnia war. Serb war crimes document that many thousands of Bosnian Muslims trained in Croatia before the Bosnian war and participated in Croatia's war.

Obviously the thuggish Bosniak man (see pic) interfered and meddled in Croatia's war - to kill the Serbs. But he has survived the alleged "genocide" at Srebrenica, which makes you wonder if he even fought there or walked out, as did many Bosnian soldiers, before the fall.

Some of the last thinks Serbs saw before they died was the mean and ugly faces of the thuggish monster Muslims, such as "Adnan" featured by the crew of this documentary who are American Jews & a Croat. Yeah like that's not biased. Even so, some truth comes through.

Adnan didn’t so much fight for his country, as much as he fought against another country – Yugoslavia. This stocky traffic cop from Srebrenica first fought against the Serbs in Croatia. It would only be a matter of time before he would have to return to the frontlines to defend his homeland of Bosnia. Little did Adnan know then that he and his Serbian counterparts would soon be picking up arms again, but in far different circumstances.

[WestCoastGal]

"Hulji said: "The plastics (Semtex) is the old type. No metal strips inside. It cannot be detected at airports. It is untraceable - no chemical markers."

Just great! Ping

[Velveeta]

Is that the same as "nitro cellulite"?

http://news.google.com/news?q=nitro%20cellulite&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wn

[Diocletian]

Again Joan: More Muslims fought on the Serb side during the Croatian war than on the Croatian side. There were over 500 Muslims alone from Kozarac that fought with the Serbs against the Croats around Pakrac in 1991.

[johnnyBbad]

Nice chronology of the yugoslav crisis.

Basically a list of the serbs whining about things such how some weapons made it to the bosnians despite the blockade - this at a time when men and weapons flowed across the Drina.

There is blame to go around in the Balkan wars but I'll say this much: the best thing the Croats, Muslims and Albanians had going for them was the Serbian tendency to blast away at cities and towns with exessive force.

No enemy attack hurt the Serbs as much as the images out of Vukovar, Dubrovnick (sp?), Sarajevo, Gorazde etc.

[kittymyrib]

I was thinking of that the other day when that Feinswine from CA was demanding a pull out date from Iraq. If the Republicans had any moxie, they'd say that we'll pull out of Iraq when we've stayed there as long as we've stayed in Bosnia. I guess the Dems would point out that the ever-parsing Clintoon didn't say WHICH Christmas they'd be pulled out.

[zagor-te-nej]

Who is whining? There were enough men and weapons in Serb Bosnia, no need for flows across the Drina. It is simply dishonest to “proclaim” and “enforce” arms embargo and then use “humanitarian” convoys and Red Cross to arm muslim and encourage them to continue fighting. Same politics is in effect today. When Serb police found 35 kg of explosive, near site of alleged massacre in Srebrenica, Ashdown blamed Srpska police for unprofessional behavior. He ordered Interior Minister of Rep. Of Srpska to “stop engaging in speculation”,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1437296/posts?page=1

Results of such behavior can be seen in London.

”It is not in fact possible for there to be any peace or coexistence between 'the Islamic Religion' and non-Islamic social and political institutions."
Alija Izetbegovic - “Islamic Declaration”, 1970

[johnnyBbad]

I agree that the UN mission was often dishonest - almost as dishonest as Milosevic and Turjman proclaiming that Serbia and Croatia weren't supplying men and material to the war in Bosnia.

As for Alija Izetbegovic, I can only speak for what I saw in Bosnia during a brief trip in 2000, and for the Bosnian Muslims that I know personally. They all seem very secular folk, more likely to drink themselves silly than pray in a mosque. Indeed Bosnians in general seemed pretty secular, nothing like what I saw last year in Egypt. If Izetbegovic really wanted an Islamic state in 1992 then he did a lousy job.

[zagor-te-nej]

Milosevic was small player; great responsibility is on those who had yield great power. Tudjman did not have to proclaim anything – he did not have to hide his involvement in Bosnia - “international community” always had lots of understanding for his actions.

Muslims are absolute darlings of the west and onus was and still is on Serbs to explain themselves but there is no will to understand them. No Serbian politician is good for the West – unless he is ready to sell his people 101% and no one Serbian interest is respected by the “international community”.

As you can see, there is definitely system in that madness.
Do not judge book by the cover - Mohammed Atta also liked to drink. As for Izetbegovic, do not judge him too harshly. He did lousy job because he had lousy material to work with. That’s the reason he did not mind sending hundreds and thousands of his soldier to be killed in poor planned and executed actions.

[johnnyBbad]

Milosevic was hardly a small player. He had as much influence on the Serbs (until cutting off support in 94) as Tudjman did on the HVO.

While it was hypocritical for the West to slap sanctions on Serbia and not Croatia, the HVO did nothing as dramatic as the sieges of Sarajevo, Bihac, Gorazde etc. - although the shelling of Mostar, and the killings in Ahmici and Stupni Do did great damage to Croatia's image. Lucky for them, the Serbs stole the spotlight, leading the US to back them as a means of levelling the playing field.

When it comes to understanding the Serbs, it was a little hard for the world be to sympathetic when they had the Muslims confined to six cities, out-gunned their enemies in tanks and heavy guns and had a leader who regularly said things like:

"Muslims faked the whole thing, using actors and old, smuggled corpses."

That's Karadzic quoted in TIME magazine after the Feb 6, 1994 mortar attack on Sarajevo that killed 68.

I remember at the time wondering "Is this guy for real?"

Granted, the Muslims waged an aggressive, manipulative PR war designed to get the West to jump in on their side, but they didn't have to try very hard to make the Serbs look like the bad guys. They played the part wonderfully on their own.

[zagor-te-nej]

Ah, noble “West” acting from the best intentions! Going out of their way to unselfishly help poor, innocent, oppressed Muslim! If you believe official version of alleged massacre, question is you real?

Most sources agree that Markale (Racak, Vase Miskina ...) was muslim job – it was just by pure chance that The Media Happened To Be There.

The UNMOs (UN Military Observers) issued a report stating that the deadly mortars were fired from inside the Muslim lines, a group of French engineers also conducted an investigation and they too concluded that the mortars had come from inside of the Muslim lines. The Sarajevo sector UNPROFOR commander also believed that the shells had emanated from inside of the Muslim lines. He even went on television and said that there was only a one in a million chance that the Serbs could have hit that spot.

Read moreTHE STAGE FOR MARKALE MASSACRE

[zagor-te-nej]

“question is are you real”

See what happens when one jumps to conclusion and does not stop to think and establish facts. And while you are mussing on that read more

"A few days ago Mr. Boutros Ghali informed me that the projectile which hit the Markale marketplace in Sarajevo was an act of (Bosnian) Muslim provocation". President Mitterrand of France, 1995
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/bosnia_sarajevo.htm

[johnnyBbad]

If your leader Karadzic wasn't such a twit maybe the world would have had a reason to doubt who launched the mortar attack instead of assuming it was the same folks who launched the previous 10,000.

[zagor-te-nej]

If you bothered to read my postings you would find that most of the information out there point to Muslim as culprits not to Serbs. If the “world” failed to believe facts, then “world” is wrong.

As for Mr. Karadzic, that is Mr. Karadzic for you, nope he is not my leader. He, Mladic and Milosevic made many mistakes – major being failing to won war. Once, when war was declared on them they should wage that war to win swiftly and decisively.

As someone who strongly supports Muslim side you should understand that and you should be grateful. Next time could be different.

[johnnyBbad]

He, Mladic and Milosevic made many mistakes – major being failing to won war.

You don't see how their conduct directly effected this?

To be quite honest, given what most of the Islamic world is like these days, there is a part of me that says "Good for you Serbia! Mess those jihadists up!" And I do feel that way when it comes to the Arabs that went over there in summer 92.

But then I think back to every Bosnian Muslim I've ever met and my bloodlust subsides a tad.