Posted on 03/06/2006 7:12:09 AM PST by FreedomSurge
This ting is still ALIVE??? Good grief!
Uh-oh...the potificators are going to come crawling out of the woodwork now.
Why did I just bump this?
YIKES...gotta go. Just got WEIRD NEWS!
What FreedomSpurge has failed to explain is how (in his view) welfare queens should be allowed to vote, yet priests and nuns not...
self ping for later read.
Why don't you explain why bitter aging feminists and homosexuals should vote? What is their concern for the long term health of the nation?
I want you to show me the part in the Constitution that says one must be a childbearing person to vote.
Then I'll answer your question.
"To clarify, having that additional 6% would be that much more I can save. Right now, that part of my income is taken from me without my consent."
Up to this point, no one has corrected this statement and I can't resist. To clarify, yes 6.5% is visibly taken from your paycheck as a line item withholding. Your employer also matches that withholding, so your earnings are actually affected by 13%. If you are self employed, you are forced to pay 13% to the government to fund FICA.
I agree with you tho, that 13% would go a lot further if I could invest it myself.
You're totally right about the 13% (and I was aware of it), I just stuck with 6 since I didn't feel like explaining what you just did!
I really wish I had gotten to this thread as the discussion was actually happening. It looks like it would have been fun. The Righteous Right is clearly as dangerous as the Loony Left. It is amazing so many dictators reside on FR.
We had a blast while the Prude Squad pouted.
Bump!
Keep it alive!
"I hope you are being sarcastic -your property taxes for schools is an investment in people who will fix your car, take care of you at the hospital, start new businesses to provide stuff and services you want."
Unless they plan to perform these services for free, that "investment" only offers negative returns. If they plan to get paid to perform these services, then they should be making the investment to realize that return.
TOGA! TOGA! TOGA!
"Especially if you still find a way to make your fair contribution."
The "fair contribution" that any consumer of services or goods is simply the pay they offer for those things. The fact that I am willing to pay $$ for a specific item/service is the motivating factor for people to educate themselves to the point that they are able to meet my wants/needs.
Instead of relying on a true capitalist economic model, we now use government force to steal money from all people to fund a school system. This school system has now created an "education is a right" mentality. As a result, people don't see that education as the required foundation to be able to earn their way in life. That motivation has become disconnected in the economic model presented by the author of this article, as well as the "investment for the future" arguments made on this thread.
The economic model presented by this author and by many on this thread are actually detrimental to society. Capitalism is being destroyed by the "children are good for society" folks. Yes, children should be celebrated and supported, but that should be by the individual families/churches/etc. not by all of society.
I don't disagree with your sentiment about government employees rights to vote, but I do disagree with your classifying military folks in the same status.
How about allow for voting rights to be granted to any government employee that is performing duties specifically written into the constitution? In addition, I would support an ammendment only allowing those civilians that pay taxes be allowed to vote.
ROFL! This thing just won't DIE!!
"I can't imagine that there would ever be an enforceable obligation to contribute toward the education of the rising generation via private, schurch or home schools (the essence of "private, church, home" is that it IS private and voluntary.)
But as I said, the fact that parents are paying all the costs of a workable future society, and your generation would reap an ensemble of tangible and intangible benefits, ought to inspire some thoughts of inter-generational solidarity.
Solidarity. That's a good word in anybody's vocabulary.
OMG! This is getting very funny...or pathetic...I can't decide which.
Both, as the Prude Squad usually is-funny and pathetic!!
Like the movie "Eraserhead."
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