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Charles Ives - Quintessentially American
Apollo 13

Posted on 06/29/2008 4:30:50 AM PDT by Apollo 13

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To: Borges
Louis Moreau Gottschalk bump! "Bamboula" is one of my all-time favorite pieces for piano. I visited Congo Square some years back and actually found it to be a very emotional experience.
41 posted on 06/29/2008 7:24:46 AM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.org | DefendOurTroops.org)
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To: Fiji Hill

...and Gershwin in turn was THE inspirator for my own American popular music hero: Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. He taught himself to play the piano and from 1962 to this day he plays ‘Rhapsody In Blue’, to feel good and lift himself out of a bad mood...
It’s safe to say that without Gershwin, Brian Wilson’s triumphant masterpieces ‘Pet Sounds’ and ‘SMiLE’ would never have seen the light of day.

Coming up tomorrow: my thread on another American treasure: guitarist John Fahey (well, since I consider this one a resonant success, I feel new encouragement).

But do continue to wrote about Ives... I just love your replies on this one!
Cheers, A13.


42 posted on 06/29/2008 7:50:01 AM PDT by Apollo 13
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To: Apollo 13
Count me in as an Ives fanatic. I went through a major Ives love fest in college and all these years later have all his work (on vinyl and CD).

The hidden gem of his recordings is the specially issued CBS Centennial Boxed set....absolutely fantastic collection including recordings of Ives himself at the piano...singing!

The Kronos quartet later "remixed" one of his vocals into a brand new composition. Ive's is a great American original.

43 posted on 06/29/2008 8:50:53 AM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: Apollo 13
"Three Places in New England" is my favorite Orchestral Work by Ives (Tilson Thomas and the Boston Symphony have definitive version IMHO), however the last 5 minutes of his 3rd Symphony never fails to move me to tears....I think his 3rd is his most unrated orchestral work.

The Concord Sonata rocks....I still play it in my car at full volume when I pull up to a hot chick at a stop light.

A bit of trivia: Bruce Hornsby used the opening phrase from the 3rd movement of the Concord Sonata ("The Alcotts") as the intro to the tune "Every Little Kiss" on his platinum "Way it Is" album.

44 posted on 06/29/2008 9:01:42 AM PDT by stravinskyrules (Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa-Lobos?)
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To: Apollo 13

I recently read the autobiography of Nicolas Slonimsky in which he has a lot to say about Charles Ives.


45 posted on 06/29/2008 9:16:06 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: Borges

Ives associated discordant music with masculinity.

^^^
Okay, well, then maybe that explains it: I am a woman.


46 posted on 06/29/2008 10:59:00 AM PDT by Bigg Red
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To: Fiji Hill

I believe ‘Joy to the World’ was adapted from Handel’s ‘Messaiah’.


47 posted on 06/29/2008 12:41:52 PM PDT by Borges
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To: aristotleman
"barely known in Europe"

Just in Europe? On a name recognition test I'll bet only about one percent of Americans know who he was. But then again any classical composer of this century would only get little more than one to ten percent of Americans knowing who they were. I can't say that I love his music, but I thought his piece on the circus was very interesting.

48 posted on 06/29/2008 2:11:29 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: driftless2

You are on the right track. Keep listening to other pieces he wrote. I recommend his songs. A lot of them are based on protestant hymns (with a twist). You may find those easier to stomach at first hearing.


49 posted on 06/29/2008 2:46:50 PM PDT by aristotleman (....in wolves' clothing....stealing ur prey.....)
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To: Borges

Handel was a contemporary of Isaac Watts, who wrote the words to “Joy to the World,” but Mason—a fan of Handel—may or may not have adapted melodies from The Messiah to create the song.


50 posted on 06/29/2008 6:34:44 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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