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Could be a lot of stuff that impeded the printing. It was shared but did the restricted user have permission to print. Maybe something went wrong with the reinstall so printing itself was a problem.

As for where to set security forget control panel, the XP Users thing is junk. Right click My Computer, Manage, then you’ll find the NT style User and Groups that actually gets the work done. Remember XP was before MS decided security was important for non-servers so they didn’t make it easy.

It probably will work but there’s some goofy setting somewhere. Was the restricted account local to the laptop or part of the network? If it’s local to the laptop you’re probably going to run into all kinds of problems with resources on the other machines, though you can (through some annoying UI digging) share an object on one computer to user account local to a different one. It’s a huge pain in the butt and much easier to just use network account but it can be done.

No matter how you slice it security is a big pain in the butt. In newer Windows just dealing with the security is a pain (death to the UAC). In older Windows before MS accepted that security was important the pain is in just setting it up in the first place. I’m not going to nail anybody for flying as admin, for one thing I’m lazy and do it too, it’s just good to remember that it’s not safe and when something bad happens you shouldn’t be surprised, and don’t come around b#$%^ing and moaning about crappy Windows security afterwards.


143 posted on 07/24/2008 3:53:51 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear
Could be a lot of stuff that impeded the printing. It was shared but did the restricted user have permission to print. Maybe something went wrong with the reinstall so printing itself was a problem.

It wasn't the reinstall. I was able to print from the Administrator account after installation. No problem. But I could not print when switching to my Restricted account. Again, it would spool, but no print.

As for where to set security forget control panel, the XP Users thing is junk. Right click My Computer, Manage, then you’ll find the NT style User and Groups that actually gets the work done. Remember XP was before MS decided security was important for non-servers so they didn’t make it easy.

Been there, done that. It brings up a Computer Management screen. What's listed is: 1) System Tools: Event Viewer, Shared Folders, Performance Logs and Alerts, Device Manager; 2) Storage: Removable Storage, Disk Degragmenter, Disk Management; 3) Services and Applications: Services, WMI Control, Indexing Service System. Nowhere is there anything, even under these areas, that pertains to Users/Groups. Nothing.

It probably will work but there’s some goofy setting somewhere. Was the restricted account local to the laptop or part of the network?

Local to the laptop.

I’m not going to nail anybody for flying as admin, for one thing I’m lazy and do it too, it’s just good to remember that it’s not safe and when something bad happens you shouldn’t be surprised, and don’t come around b#$%^ing and moaning about crappy Windows security afterwards.

I understand. But keep in mind, your usual PC buyer will be totally clueless about security. Much more so than you or even I. I'm both hardware and software firewalled and running anti-virus software. I run Ad-Ware, and have Spybot running in the background. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I've had few to no problems for quite some time.

I decided to look into changing accounts so I gave it a try. Well, I'm back to running as Administrator. There may be a threat, but it's a heck of a lot easier and hassle free from a user standpoint. And I can assure you, well over 95% of the PC public is likely doing the same.

151 posted on 07/24/2008 4:29:01 PM PDT by bcsco (To heck with a third party. We need a second one....)
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