Posted on 08/09/2008 11:00:57 PM PDT by freespirited
From what I’ve read elsewhere, if Barry was adopted by Soetoro then his original birth certificate would have been sealed and a new one issued in the name of his adoptive father. Of course, this then raises issues about nationality (not to mention religion) and still doesn’t answer the question of where he was born.
At this point, even if he proves that everything’s above-board with his original birth certificate, there’s still the matter of the fake one. A senator forging his identification is not going to endear a man named Barack Hussein Obama to the American voter.
Me, too!
The Republicans have evidentally been in Djakarta greasing palms with money to get the information about Obama’s trip to Pakistan.
Yeah, most folks don’t care about dual citizenship. I’m different. I care a whole hell’uva lot!
No dual citizenship Presidents, period. The Democrats try and run a candidate with dual citizenship, they might as well kiss their chances goodbye. Loyalty is very important to the majority of people in this country.
Personally, I would like to see dual citizenships made illegal.
“If she’s the vp, that all goes away.”
If she really wanted to be his VEEP, she wouldn’t need to release so much about him to the public. Not only that, she probably concluded, like many of us, that he’ll likely lose.
I think she has high confidence in her husband to get her elected. Bill Clinton is better at triangulation than in appealing to the far left. The Clintons probably knew all along that winning the nomination would be tougher than the election. It’s really hard to assure the DNC that you’re left-wing enough and still have a chance of winning the election later.
I’ve been told by a Constitutional lawyer, who is a freeper, that dual nationality will not bar you automatically from being President.
Not having been born in the U.S.A., however, will make you ineligible to be President.
McCain was born in Panama.
Where was Barack Hussein Obama II born? We still haven’t found that one out yet and he still isn’t saying.
Dream on. This stuff is made up to panic the superdelegates at the last minute with paranoia about RIGHT WING DEATH SQUADS. There never was a whitey tape. And who cares if his first name was Sotero?
Thank you for your input. There’s still the problem of a forged identification. I suppose someone could go to jail and take the heat for him. But then he has to feign ignorance of the forgery. That would be a hard lie to believe. Gosh, it’s past 2 am and I didn’t check my tires for proper inflation. Do you prefer helium or greenhouse gases?
When did he make his way to Pakistan?
In the summer of 1981, after visiting his mother and sister Maya in Indonesia, Obama went to Pakistan for about three weeks, traveling with Wahid Hamid and staying in Karachi with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo’s family in Karachi and visiting Hyderabad as well.
But then he has to feign ignorance of the forgery.
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Which would be pretty hard to do considering that it was based on one issued to his own sister. Effectively, only he or his sister could have requested it and if it was her, guess who asked her to.
“Which would be pretty hard to do considering that it was based on one issued to his own sister.”
Good point. Unless this is an elaborate hoax / rope-a-dope, Barak is done.
if theres anything at all to this and the dims want to go with plan b,hrc,then we’ll get an announcement from the marxist himself he’s dropping out due to health reasons. its the only way they keep his supporters from burning down the house. whatever happens,if anything,let it happen late,like oct,and give them little time for her to mount a campaign.
Yeah, that's what I thought too. However, the presence of the birth certificate issued in HI under the name Soetoro doesn't seem to be a problem, as it only reflects him being adopted by his mom's 2nd husband. It only indicates that there might be the other birth certificate, pressumably issued when he was born. But again, he could have been born in HI only with a different name. The possible real issue is if he was born in Kenya, but I haven't seen any indication about that. He could have been born in Indonesia too, but there's no indication about that either.
When she starts screeching in the General Election campaign, the average voter will reel.
Switching candidates late in a race can throw the rival off-balance. Many are trying to figure out how McCain can beat OB. I was looking forward to this political massacre. But let's face it— there's a good chance we'll be facing someone else. Most likely, it will be Hillary.
The Clintons have experience with switching candidates. Does anyone remember Torricelli / Loutenburg? Doug Forrester was cleaning Torricelli's clock. Frankly, I've heard of worse scandals than having illegal gifts, but Forrester was running a brilliant campaign. Guess who flew over to trip him up? Bill Clinton. He convinced Torricelli to drop out. [Yes, I realize that the NJ Soprano Court broke the law with their ruling, but that's an aside just now.]
Bill Clinton convinced Torricelli to step aside, and then Forrester found himself facing the Lout. He did not have enough time to shift his campaign. Forrester lost. I hope we are not caught flatfooted in this important election. The Clintons are almost as radical as Obama and ten times more corrupt. They have experience; they know how DC works. They know how the media works. And if there are no 527s that rise up quickly enough and expose the Clintons AND the Rodham Brothers, I believe McCain will lose.
McCain will call for a ‘clean’ and neutered campaign. It will be tempting since the Black vote will be dispirited. RINOs will say that 'Monica' proves that the Clintons are teflon. They aren't. You can't pardon terrorists, pardon crack manufacturers, and have 'pardon fees' sent to relatives/inlaws without paying a political price, unless you are running against wimps.
“When she starts screeching in the General Election campaign, the average voter will reel.”
Well, she could laugh. The Cackling Comeback Witch.
Oh, I better go check the air in my tires again.
The issue has become not whether the circumstances and loacation of Obama/Soetoro’s birth qualify or disqualifiy him from the Presidency, but whether the forging and alteration of official documents does.
Given the apparent fact that Maya Seotoro’s Hawaii birth certificate (itself questionable) was used as the basis for the forgery, it seems unlikely that Obama/Soetoro will be able to credibly claim innocence in the affair.
His goose is cooked, and I think he knows it.
Circa 1970, several young Blacks in Muncie, Indiana became Muslims. They were an angry bunch. They terrorized the folks at an agency called Action Incorporated which ran the local Head Start Program.
They terrorized and ostracized a young Black couple who bought their dream house in a White neighborhood. Even the young woman's family was in on the act. Her father was an angry man.
All of those young men changed their names to a Muslim name.
Nobody in Muncie, Indiana at the time got it. They thought they were immune and insulated from East Coast terrorists like the Weatherman Underground.
It's really past the time to round up the known members of these kinds of groups... either deport them or commit them or jail them... Talking about Muslims, Code Pink, Environmental terrorists, MoveOn.org crowd, Feminazi groups like those who belong to Emily's List, etc. These people are bananas.
And, I'm tired of their smack.
what’s your take on this?
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