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To: ZX12R
I see no reason to exclude science or God from the debate.

How do you go about testing the God hypothesis? I've seen a lot of talk about including God in science, but have never seen any research proposals.

724 posted on 01/06/2009 9:59:53 AM PST by js1138
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To: js1138
How do you go about testing the God hypothesis? I've seen a lot of talk about including God in science, but have never seen any research proposals.

It's not a hypothesis that I make, but it is certainly a possibility. I don't think it's smart to try and understand something, by making pompous assertions that it can't be due to this or that. A little pragmatism is a mature possession.
729 posted on 01/06/2009 10:21:16 AM PST by ZX12R
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To: js1138

[[I’ve seen a lot of talk about including God in science, but have never seen any research proposals.]]

Not from ID proponents you haven’t-


732 posted on 01/06/2009 10:26:36 AM PST by CottShop
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To: js1138; ZX12R
ZX12R:I see no reason to exclude science or God from the debate.

js: How do you go about testing the God hypothesis?

That's changing the subject.

Having scientists demand that God not be considered as even existing is excluding God from the debate. Same as demanding that even if He did exist, He does not play any role in nature now.

Newton, Pasteur, Faraday, for that matter virtually all those famous scientists who laid the foundation of what we know as modern science, didn't exclude God from consideration.

It was INCLUDING God in it all that enable Newton to determine that an orderly God created an orderly, predictable universe capable of being studied in a logical, rational manner. That concept came from religious belief and scientists are riding the coattails of that conclusion.

While most things have natural explanations, that doesn't preclude supernatural ones at all. There could be supernatural ones as well. Perfectly true, perfectly valid, perfectly unknowable by the scientific method, but perfectly real.

Acknowledgment that God could be behind something inexplicable instead of dogmatic dicta that it is not possible, period, end of story, would be a good first step.

So what if it turns out God really did supernaturally create all life spontaneously as is recorded in Scripture? That doesn't change what we DO know about genetics and variation within species. Neither does it negate the research being done nor the progress made in science that have used THOSE concepts.

783 posted on 01/06/2009 12:23:50 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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