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To: frog in a pot; Polarik; BP2; Beckwith; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Jim Robinson
"Whether it is the largest scam, depends on whether O was born in Hawaii." Absolutely and unequivocally WRONG! But that was a nice try. The affirmative action figure could have been born in the Oval Office and it would not change the fact that he has offered a forgery, on the Internet, stated through minions that the forgery came from the state of Hawaii official records keepers, and continued to lie and dissemble and use lawyers and detectives and threats through federal judges to keep his scam from being exposed fully thus implicating even the demcorat aprty in his criminality.

You further try o dissemble the issue with, "I say this only because any review by the USSC will likely be greatly influenced by the fact the Republican attorneys serving in the Congress ..." WRONG again, but carefully craft!

The SCOTUS has one very clear task which the Roberts court has consciouslt chosen to side-step: to tender a ruling as to whether the term natural born citizen as used in the Constitution means two parents, born on US soil or not on US soil.

And finally, I find it is quite suspicious that you try the following obliqueness:
"... Republican politicians with some guts and a sense of duty, who will understand the oath they swear to defend the Constitution. And, we must conclude, they are not now in office. (Do not tell me it is hurtful to offend our political leaders, where have they been on this issue?)"

The party of sitting Republican politicians is irrelevent. The issue is between the federal judiciary and we the people via our now very much in doubt Constitutional contract. Your characterization of the issues as clear and present danger when the bastard's vote tally was received I shall address in a moment.

The current resident of the Oval office has used a form of extortion to exquisite effect, in tendering his criminal ascendency to the presidency. The implied threat is racial rioting and mayhem if he is not allowed to continue with his criminal scam. Well I, for one, am more than willing to allow racially motivated criminals to burn down cities, if it means the single thing making this Republic legal is restored to the proper importance.

If we the people can be ignored so easily in order to allow a criminal racist thug to take the oval office while the 'subpreme' court effectively runs interference for him, then the Constitutional Republic is no more because the contract that was the Constitution has been abrogated to allow an affirmative action thug to commit criminal fraud in order to extort the highest office of power.

Your little scam of implying all sitting Republicans must be made to answer for the criminality of this lying bastard democrat is a telling subtle ploy to have folks just shut up and go along for now so the apple cart will not be overturned. Shove that!

If democrats want to continue to aid and abet this criminal bastard protected from answering for his criminal fraud, they are the ones whom should be tossed from office en masse ... and impeached then removed, if they were not the criminal enterprise now holding all the cards of power!

The extreme criminal nature of this fraudulent president was not so well documented and exposed as you would like to portray before the election results were counted.

The complicit Roberts court gave this bastard cover that was at least confusing to the average citizen and elected Republican. But you can bet there are democrats sitting in powerful offices who knew damned well that this liar was not eligible but they chose to play the race hustle threats and get him into power at any cost.

Now, want to try again with your not so subtle ploys?

73 posted on 06/16/2009 4:40:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN; Polarik; BP2; Beckwith; LucyT; Fred Nerks; Jim Robinson

Recommend you get a grip, fella’.

Reading your posts over the last several months, while not agreeing with all your points, I concluded you and I were on the same side of the argument.

You and I have discussed this issue previously in more rational, non-personal terms.
But, if you doubt my intentions, review my posts to you and take a look at my About Page

You seem to hold in your first paragraph that O’s greatest sin is passing a forgery. It appears you then try to shield the Republicans from any wrongdoing.
That overlooks more than many of us are willing disregard.

I am not going to comment on several of your other points, instead I am going out to dinner. May I suggest the same for you?


74 posted on 06/16/2009 4:58:44 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Socialism and facism violate the Constitution and are "domestic enemies".)
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To: MHGinTN; chaosagent; LucyT; frog in a pot; Polarik; Beckwith; Fred Nerks
If we the people can be ignored so easily in order to allow a criminal racist thug to take the oval office while the ‘subpreme’ court effectively runs interference for him, then the Constitutional Republic is no more because the contract that was the Constitution has been abrogated to allow an affirmative action thug to commit criminal fraud in order to extort the highest office of power.

Obama has successfully exploited loopholes in Hawaiian birth certificate law (HRS 338), state and federal Election Law and even Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution. I've spent many hours researching this and have determined that on the surface, he's legal met the requirement as they exist. Bravo for living up to the ethical standards of a Chicago attorney. With any luck, someone will challenge the efficacy of HRS 338 from another state to push this issue.

However, as such, the SCOTUS does not want to formally define “Natural Born Citizen” in the same way (and with the same vigor) that they have defined the elements of the Second Amendment, as they did in DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ET AL. v. HELLER -- http://www.supremecourtus.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf .

If the SCOTUS is “cornered” to do so, I am convinced Obama would be considered a “US Citizen” (as having an American mother), but NOT a “Natural Born Citizen” (having a Kenyan father) using the vernacular of the 1780s and before.


Obama is a scam artist, as was his mom who scammed her way through the system through the years. We're seeing him (attempt to) scam his way with the American public today as he has for decades to get to this point. Luckily, not EVERYONE is beguiled by his deceptive charm. Charm can only cover up stupidity and inexperience for so long.

He's certainly had help along the way to get where he is. For example, remember the break-in last March, when his records at the State Dept were accessed by an employee at Analysis Corp? It's rather remarkable that of ALL of the people he could have picked to be his “Terrorism czar” and Deputy National Security Advisor for Homeland Security, he picks John O. Brennan, who has served as CEO of Analysis Corp since 2005.

But have no illusions, you Dems out there ... the Hawaii office of Vital Records does NOT have his ONLY copy of the “long form” birth certificate. Other agencies with access over the years include:
-- Interpol
-- the Pakistani NADRA office
-- the former KGB (from when Obama was detained in Perm, Siberia in 2005)
-- the US Consulate's office in Indonesia
-- Indonesian Customs
-- Kenyan Customs
-- UK Customs
-- US Customs
-- US State Dept, etc.

Someone has tucked away a copy of his “long form” birth certificate used as the source document in Hawaii. It will be leaked, with a consistent chain of evidence from origin to US Official along the way, that it will be undeniably accurate — it's only a matter of time. And when it does and shows he's so vigorously hidden for years, he will be destroyed, as will the DNC for backing him.

Furthermore, nearly all of the legislation and policy change he's doing now will be undone — which is why he paints everything as a crisis — and is in such a damn hurry. The fall-out for the crap he and the Democrats are doing to this country right now WILL be ENORMOUS.

96 posted on 06/16/2009 9:27:07 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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