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To: foutsc
To those who are convinced this is a black and white case, ask yourself this question: If this were a 17-year old girl from a fundamentalist Christian family running into the arms of an imam, would you still be sticking up for the girl and the mosque?

HELL YES, if there was a pattern of such murders in fundamentalist Christianity (there isn't, but there sure as HELL is in Islam), and if the girl herself believed her life to be in danger.

This particular girl believes her life is in danger. Given the teachings of Islam, this is a completely credible belief. WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL HER OTHERWISE AND TO DEMAND THAT SHE MUST BE RETURNED TO THOSE WHO MAY MURDER HER?

Forgive me for pointing it out, but your arrogance in this matter appears to be just astonishing.

Even if child abuse is proven, it does not follow that she will be killed.

This is true. But credible evidence of child abuse - completely apart from her belief that her life is in danger - is by itself sufficient reason for her not to be returned to her home.

Finally, we are about 2 steps away from home-schoolers being declared religious nuts, forcing a showdown between parents in their home and the state that wants to herd everyone into public institutions.

First, a logical fallacy. Your statement does not follow from this case.

Second: We're not talking here about a case of children being dragged away by force from their families who love them. We're talking about a girl being dragged by force BACK TO a family that has abused her in the past and is now, by her personal report, ready to slit her throat.

45 posted on 08/24/2009 2:29:05 PM PDT by john in springfield (One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe such things.No ordinary man could be such a fool.)
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To: john in springfield
Actually, it is not a logical fallacy, because I did not use that as a premise in my argument. It is supporting my contention that if they can do it to Muslims they can do it to you, and believe me, there are progressives that would love to teach us ignorant Christians a thing or two.

Which brings me to my other point: Progressives use Tim McVeigh, David Koresh, and various other stories of parents killing their kids because satan told them to or they thought their kids were possessed by the devil. They take a few scattered data points and extrapolate out until we're all dangerous right wing nazis. You see no similarity?

47 posted on 08/24/2009 2:38:09 PM PDT by foutsc (Nietzsche is Dead)
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