[foutsc]

Now you've muddled two distinct issues. We agree, if there is child abuse she should be removed from the home. That is different and distinct from the whole muslim cutting off heads issue.

I fully support removing her, or any child, from the home based upon proven child abuse. That is not the focus of this hearing in Florida, so far. If it is an issue, the state of Ohio should open an investigation.

Child abuse is a legally-accepted reason for the state to intervene in the home. Religious belief or ethic or religious affiliation of the parents is not.

I'm glad you see a vague similarity, because it's there, and I admit it's vague. The arguments some people use here are the same ones progressives use against conservative Christians. My only point was to get people to see this. This is an emotional issue, but we can't let that prevent a cold examination of the facts.

We all have a responsibility to keep fellow conservatives honest, sometimes by challenging each others' thought processes.

You spar with friendly teammates before the big match with the real enemy. ;)

[john in springfield]

Religious belief or ethic or religious affiliation of the parents is not.

I could be wrong, but I haven't seen any allegation whatsoever to date that the court proposes to make any determination based on religious belief or affiliation of the parents. Nor would I expect this to be the case.