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On Senator Kennedy’s Funeral [Card. O'Malley Told Obama to Leave Abortion Out of HealthCare Bi
Cardinal O'Malley ^ | September 2, 2009 | Cardinal Seán Patrick O'Malley, OFM Cap

Posted on 09/02/2009 7:01:01 PM PDT by cmj328

I had the opportunity to speak briefly with President Obama, to welcome him to the Basilica and to share with him that the bishops of the Catholic Church are anxious to support a plan for universal health care, but we will not support a plan that will include a provision for abortion or could open the way to abortions in the future. The President was gracious in the short time we spoke, he listened intently to what I was saying.

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To: uncbob

What is your point?


21 posted on 09/02/2009 9:14:40 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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To: Col Freeper

It’s the Catholic Church’s position that everyone should have access to healthcare. However, Catholics are free to disagree on HOW to make healthcare accessible...wether it be government run or free market solutions.


22 posted on 09/02/2009 9:50:06 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: cmj328

Pathetic, sentimental rationalizations for sucking up to Power.

People call Sarah a “liar” because “death panels” are not in the bill. By that, they mean that the WORDS “death panels” are not in the bill.

It will be the same with “abortion.” It will be in the penumbras of emanations from parts of the bill.

Note the soft, euphemistic way O’Malley describes Kennedy’s support for abortion: Kennedy did not publically [sic] support the Church’s teaching...

Kennedy was a shrieking, screaming, devious, implacable advocate for killing everybody who couldn’t defend himself: the unborn, the partially-born, the newly-born, the comatose. Kennedy accepted an award from the very hands of abortionist Kenneth Edelin, the “Boston Strangler.” Kennedy slandered Robert Bork for weeks, primarily because Bork posed a danger to Roe v. Wade.

Then there’s O’Malley’s fulsome praise for Kennedy’s leftist, socialist agenda—which, as a bishop of the Catholic Church, O’Malley has NO RIGHT to be publicly supporting. Catholics are at liberty to reject EVERYTHING Kennedy did in his political life. They are NOT required to support the socialistic legislation Kennedy pushed for forty-seven years. A Catholic bishop should promote ONLY those things that Catholics MUST agree with him on.


23 posted on 09/02/2009 11:14:26 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Misterioso
Does that include imams?

Catholic Church = Islamic fundamentalism in your eyes. Interesting.

24 posted on 09/03/2009 5:12:32 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Col Freeper

Several prelates have stated in recent news reports that the Catholic Church supports access to healthcare for all — it is a prudential judgment left up to society as a whole on dertermining how this can be done.

Considering the fact that the Catholic Church was the first to build hospitals and deliver health services to all has been totally forgotten.


25 posted on 09/03/2009 7:49:56 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: TheFourthMagi

Planned Parenthood is a recognized community healthcare deliverer by the federal government.

Need I say more?

Seeing they are in the business of terminating life from its beginning, no wonder they are building huge fortresses in some big cities on the chance that they may be given government contracts to terminate the lives of the elderly as well.

From distributing and cashing in on the morning after pill, it isn’t hard to imagine them creating your own personal evening of life pill!

“A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope.”

Pope John Paul II


26 posted on 09/03/2009 8:01:40 AM PDT by victim soul
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To: TheFourthMagi

I think I made it


27 posted on 09/03/2009 9:48:10 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: SMCC1
It’s the Catholic Church’s position that everyone should have access to healthcare. However, Catholics are free to disagree on HOW to make healthcare accessible...wether it be government run or free market solutions.

Thank you for your response SMCC1. However, I don't think you addressed my question. Let me re-post the supposed comment from the article:

... and to share with him that the bishops of the Catholic Church are anxious to support a plan for universal health care, ...

The ONLY plan that Obama is interested in is a government run, socialist controlled power-grab plan, that is intended to eliminate all public options.

If one is talking to Obama about being anxious to support a plan, and he has only one plan, (and the only apparent voiced concern is that the plan not include abortion), one might assume that there is support by the Roman Catholic Church for Obama's government only plan.

That is, of course, if the media isn't making this up and/or distorting the facts.

28 posted on 09/03/2009 10:00:14 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: cmj328
To me, I see a prince of the Church playing politics with an issue he should simply be fulminating against from the pulpit.

The Kennedy funeral is just another black eye to believing Catholics from our prelates. The message? Money talks. Catholic moral teaching walks.

Dear God, send us worthy and strong shepherds!
29 posted on 09/03/2009 10:06:35 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sarah Palin will soon have more fans on Facebook than most major newspapers have readers.)
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To: victim soul
Several prelates have stated in recent news reports that the Catholic Church supports access to healthcare for all — it is a prudential judgment left up to society as a whole on dertermining how this can be done.

Considering the fact that the Catholic Church was the first to build hospitals and deliver health services to all has been totally forgotten.

Thank you for your response VS. See my response to SMCC1 at post #28.

Yes, society as a whole, can, and ultimately will of course, determine how the issue will be resolved.

I'm simply trying to determine if the supposed statement I referenced in the article is "true" in the sense that the Roman Catholic Church is "anxious to support a [read Obama's] plan for universal health care".

My hope is that it is not.

I would argue that while many have forgotten the Roman Catholic Church's hospitals and health services, not everyone has. Additionally, some evil-doers not only remember, they intend to ensure that these hospitals and health services fall under government control and that the workers there adhere to the death culture they envision for all of us to live under.

30 posted on 09/03/2009 10:17:32 AM PDT by Col Freeper (FR is a smorgasbord of Conservative thoughts and ideas - dig in and enjoy it to its fullest!)
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To: victim soul
“A nation that kills its own children is a nation without hope.”

And without hope, people destroy the present instead of building the future.

31 posted on 09/03/2009 1:18:53 PM PDT by TheFourthMagi
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