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Why “Stargate: Universe” Would Make the Real Jack O’Neill Puke
The Nav Log ^ | 10/24/09 | gps333@charter.net

Posted on 10/24/2009 1:18:24 PM PDT by pabianice

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To: pabianice
I have found myself wanting to like this show; but, alas, I simply cannot.

The writing is as dull as can be. I found myself, in Friday's ep, moving my hand in a circle trying desperately to get them to pick up the pace of the dialogue.

I'm not really attaching myself to any of the characters, or feeling like I want someone to succeed. I seriously hate the Dr. Rush character as played by Carlyle.

The other problem that I see with the episodes, so far, is how visually boring they are. Everything is so dark. With SG1, and SG-Atlantis, the sets were a little more interesting (especially Atlantis) and they could go offworld to different settings. The one time some of the crew gets off Destiny they end up on a desert planet --- which is also really boring, visually.

21 posted on 10/24/2009 2:11:12 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: pabianice

I liked the orderliness of the military/civilian structure of SG-1, Atlantis, Star Trek x. The SG Universe show, lacks the cohesiveness and structure that is required for believability in this type of show. If this were a real setting, all personal would be a select group, used to keeping state secrets, having passed multiple psychological tests. The interactiveness of the people needs to be lifted to a structured, dependable level quickly as it will lose my interest. If I want to see senseless arguing indecision and mayhem, I’ll watch PMSNBS/MSLSD or network TV. The other thing I feel let down about is, I was expecting to see Lou Diamond Phillips as the major character. I’ll give it more time but it could use a big face-lift real quick.


22 posted on 10/24/2009 2:32:01 PM PDT by Freeper Fanatic
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To: Clock King
Star Trek Voyager? Again?

That is what I said. They didn't put a woman in charge because they didn't want it to be just like "Voyager". Besides "Stargate" had already done that a couple of times.

23 posted on 10/24/2009 2:38:07 PM PDT by magslinger (Inside every father is a Bryan Mills waiting to get out.)
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To: SeeSharp

I thought it was bad also as it was obvious that the ship was up to something and was never off course as the crew decided without giving it much thought. 5 minutes in I was certain that the ship was refulling - was only logical for a ship running around the universe for mabe 5 million years to have a way to refuel.


24 posted on 10/24/2009 2:42:33 PM PDT by PIF
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To: pabianice

Personally, the now (maybe) canceled ABC show, Defying Gravity was shaping up to be a good scifi effort.


25 posted on 10/24/2009 2:45:09 PM PDT by PIF
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To: Truth29
It makes Amanda Tapping’s Sanctuary look good by comparison

You mean you didn't like the last ep with Tinkerbell from Jersey??

26 posted on 10/24/2009 2:46:37 PM PDT by mikrofon (Teleport the Shark)
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To: pabianice

I have a problem with comparing 23-year old kids living in their ma’s basement to Morlocks. Morlocks seemed to be physically fit, hard-working, and capable of harnessing technology into something useful.


27 posted on 10/24/2009 3:10:32 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: VanDeKoik

Babylon 5 could be a contender for the top sci-fi show. I am still mixed on SG-U.


28 posted on 10/24/2009 3:17:00 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: urroner

I really like it.

Other than the engineering brainfade with the leaky shuttle.
Hmm, hole is x by x, chief bring me two pieces of metal luggage and a hammer. chisel off paint, slap on metal, voila, instant patch. sorry about the window.(metal to metal contact in vacuum creates a more or less instant (w/in a few minutes) weld. that why spacecraft hatches have teflon and serious coating over metal to metal contact.
I have greatly enjoyed the writing.

You have a lot of folks who are *not* where they want to be.

add creaky lifeboat stir, serve me a episode week.

They have to use *all* their resources to stay alive.

woerm.

(Which is one reason I always loved Gilligan’s Island comedy or not, they never, never gave up)

woerm


29 posted on 10/24/2009 3:17:11 PM PDT by woerm (student of history)
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To: I am Richard Brandon
"The characters were quirky but consistent - the inscrutable and reliable alien, the boffin girl scout, the dorkish archaeologogist meeting real (!) life, and above all, that CO - what’s up with him? The characters were great."

You're thinking of another show...


30 posted on 10/24/2009 3:23:52 PM PDT by RabidBartender (I will work harder, Napoleon is always right.)
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To: GeronL

quote
decrepit?

It can fly into a sun can’t it?

Hey, a Phoenix has to do what a Phoenix has to do.

Go Sunbird!

woerm


31 posted on 10/24/2009 3:24:01 PM PDT by woerm (student of history)
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To: RabidBartender

Every show on TV now has to have one homosexual character.

I watched the great USA Network’s White Collar last night, great show, but again the female lead is a lesbian.

They even referenced the Army’ don’t ask, don’t tell, so the FBI chief said, “That’s the Army, we’re the FBI,” so he’s great with his fellow agent being lesbian.

It’s so bizarre, this pandering.

Ed


32 posted on 10/24/2009 3:33:59 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed
You are right about every single show out there now having to have at least one, usually two (a couple) homosexuals.

I have been enjoying FlashForward, but this week they turn the female FBI agent into a lesbian and I have to put up with watching women kissing each other. I just don't like having Hollywood's values shoved in my face. I was also appalled at how much time was wasted on this storyline, which had nothing to do with the show's premise. Both my husband and I were not happy.

I don't know, do these people in L.A. really think that we just can't live without their programming. I like FlashForward, but I could stop watching it and that would be just fine.

33 posted on 10/24/2009 3:46:13 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Freeper Fanatic

“I liked the orderliness of the military/civilian structure of SG-1, Atlantis, Star Trek x. The SG Universe show, lacks the cohesiveness and structure that is required for believability in this type of show.”

I agree, if there is one common theme among the various sci-fi shows, they all had a strong and ordered command structure. Voyager even made it a point when they were thrown to the other side of the galaxy.

What’s hurting Universe is the lack of a foe. The first episode of SG-1 introduced Anubis. The first episode of Atlantis introduced the Wraith. Battlestar/cylons, Voyager/Kazon, etc. Yes the crew is fighting for survival but that story can’t go very far.

There is a lot of good sci-fi out there, most of it ran on fox for one season and then canceled :)

Earth 2 (NBC)
Space: Above and Beyond
Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles
Firefly

BTW: Deep Space Nine is the best sci-fi show ever! Stargate SG-1 second followed by Babylon 5.


34 posted on 10/24/2009 7:22:00 PM PDT by Raymann
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To: pabianice

>>>The ship presents us with about 100 losers

I’m not really a Stargate fan. I saw the original movie once and never felt the urge for a second view, I gave the first series a chance but after a few episodes I just couldn’t get into it, and I’ve never bothered with the successor series’ at all. So I’m not really standing up for the show when I say the idea of following some losers isn’t the worst concept for a show.

The dedicated heroic square jawed colonel and the babe scientists and such, you expect them to win. That’s par for the course. The mooks have to work harder. Depending on how its handled by the producers/writers you get at least the potential of more dramatic latitude.

To illustrate the point, look at Babylon 5, particularly the first season. A passed over Commander in charge of the base, a dry drunk security officer with a record of failure, an emotionally crippled first officer, alien ambassadors considered embarrassments to their families assigned just to get them out from underfoot, and so forth. That worked out pretty well.


35 posted on 10/24/2009 11:41:04 PM PDT by tlb
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To: wally_bert
“Babylon 5 could be a contender for the top sci-fi show.”

Babylon 5 is the top sci-fi show ever. Followed by Farscape. Both shows followed the theme of love from different perspectives: Babylon 5 (The War Between the Love of Order and the Love of Strife), Farscape (The War of Love).

Now days, nothing comes even slightly close to these two in over-arching themes. Defying Gravity, as I mentioned, had a lot of potential, but since no one has picked it up from ABC, we will never know what that potential might have been. Love was part of the theme, so it might have been very good.

36 posted on 10/25/2009 6:58:49 AM PDT by PIF
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To: pabianice

bump


37 posted on 10/25/2009 3:09:37 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
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To: pabianice

Bring back Firefly!


38 posted on 10/25/2009 3:29:57 PM PDT by Eye of Unk ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Raymann
"BTW: Deep Space Nine is the best sci-fi show ever! Stargate SG-1 second followed by Babylon 5."

You are delusional. Both those shows almost made me swear off SciFi for a decade. They were both about futuristic orbiting UN buildings! We were even privileged to see their boiler rooms from time to time! What a bore!

39 posted on 10/25/2009 3:46:14 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: tlb

In B5, you had second stringers, not the population of the lobby of the local welfare office.


40 posted on 10/25/2009 3:47:09 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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