Posted on 11/19/2009 9:51:32 AM PST by MetaThought
Holy crap ....
The problem is that the contract of marriage itself would fall foul of the law.
I think she is polluting the waters on purpose to obfuscate the issue and force Texans to recognize Gay Marriage.
Move afoot to outlaw divorce (One News Now ^ | 11/12/2009 | Charlie Butts)
“People who supported Prop 8 weren’t trying to take rights away from gays, they just wanted to protect traditional marriage. That’s why I’m confident that they will support this initiative, even though this time it will be their rights that are diminished.” (link above is to the FR thread, actual quote came from another interview with the man)
If we have "marriage rights", the right to marry anyone, a spouse could NOT deny you a divorce. That keeps you from being able to remarry.
People in comments seem to think it's mere “lawyering” to believe that if Texas had defined something in subpart A of the amendment that it could not have then banned it in subpart B. Except, of course, that's how laws get written all the time.
For example, the criminal law is filled with that type of thing. “Statutory rape is defined as X.” “Statutory rape is a felony punishable by Y.” Regulatory law is also fileld with that type of thing. “Controlled substance is defined as A.” “No wholesaler, manufacturer, or retailer shall furnish controlled substances unless B (usually having to do with state licensing).”
When the legislature defines something it does not necessarily follow that it intends to approve that thing. Now, you and I know that Texas very much wanted to approve the traditional notion of marriage with its 2005 amendment and ban gay alternatives. The text of that amendment, though, followed a familiar pattern:
(A) Definition: Marriage is between a man and a woman.
(B) Proscription: The state shall not recognize legal statuses identical to marriage.
Commenters are reading an implicit “other” in subpart B (”The state shall not recognize other legal statuses”), because they know the intent of the amendment. The point of my original post is that the text alone does not get you there.
This law merely implies that the courts don’t recognize it.
Nothing whatsoever about about living in sin.
I know. I was being a bit sarcastic.
When you get your J.D. come back and talk. There is no ambiguity in the text. The homosexualist is trying to make one where it doesn’t exist.
Sorry Meta, look at the actual verbage, it is one sentence and is even more clear IMO than how you presented it in the initial posting. I think Babs will be disappointed with the AG opiniom when it is issued, looks and sounds like settled law to me.
Seriously though, it’s amazing how many people equate legality with morality.
B.S. Sounds like another queer liberal smokescreen. Radnowsky is a kook.
I got married in Texas last year. Feels pretty legal to me.
Not.
Babs is looking to BECOME the AG, judicial activism here we come.
Gut reaction— no it wouldn’t.
Willing-to-discuss-it reaction— how?
Messed up?
The clause is perfectly clear.
Any relationship that is similar or identical to marriage obviously isn’t marriage.
Marriage is not prohibited. Defining something that isn’t marriage into being marriage is.
Duh.
The first line defines marriage.
The relevant part of the second line is
“...this state may not ... recognize any legal status identical ... to marriage”
This is very clear. The intentions don’t matter.
Marriage itself is identical to marriage.
I highly doubt that anyone will actually implement this amendment fully. It’s just a badly written law. :)
Bah.
Let them take it where they will.
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