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Don't Expect the Supreme Court to Save You
Patriot's History of the United States ^ | 12/24/09 | LS

Posted on 12/24/2009 5:08:09 AM PST by LS

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There is a pretty good argument to be made that the Democrats have already sidestepped the potential for any kind of activist (i.e., violent) revolution/resistance by the extremely incremental nature of all of this. By the time people see the consequences and WANT to revolt, it will be way too late.
1 posted on 12/24/2009 5:08:10 AM PST by LS
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To: LS

You summed it all up.

The battle has been lost. We must salvage what we can of our Country before it’s too late.


2 posted on 12/24/2009 5:11:42 AM PST by Def Conservative (Obama is a joke.)
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To: LS
Excellent analysis. I would imagine that should any challenges come up to the Supreme Court, it would most likely rule that providing health care is an obligation of the federal government, since some foreign law somewhewre says so.

And of course, once this passes, anyone who tries to repeal it will have to contend with ads saying "That evil GOP is trying to take away your health care." Good luck winning against that.

3 posted on 12/24/2009 5:14:28 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Def Conservative

speak for yourself


4 posted on 12/24/2009 5:14:53 AM PST by This_far (Mandatory insurance! I thought it was about health care?)
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And good luck doing anything once the USSC says Health care IS a constitutional right...ROE v. Wade anybody...


5 posted on 12/24/2009 5:15:44 AM PST by Def Conservative (Obama is a joke.)
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To: LS

I’m no expert, but I predict the nation will be broke in very short order; without healthcare for anyone.


6 posted on 12/24/2009 5:17:13 AM PST by incredulous joe ("I like smiling! Smiling is my favorite!!")
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To: LS
The solution is secession.

There's no other way. Getting a two-thirds majority in both houses simply isn't going to happen. The media and ACORN will not allow the vote count to come out that way.

Some state has to go first. Then others will follow. But it's time to leave the party.

7 posted on 12/24/2009 5:17:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We have the 1st so that we can call on people to rebel. We have 2nd so that they can.)
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To: Def Conservative

ROE v. Wade anybody...

Legalizing the murdering of babies has come full cycle.


8 posted on 12/24/2009 5:19:22 AM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: LS; acton_guy

The EASIEST WAY for us to end this nonsense is to contribute to Scott Brown’s candidacy (Kennedy seat). The Dem nominee up there isn’t lighting anyone on fire and the rumor is that State Sen. Brown is leading that race.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2413769/posts


9 posted on 12/24/2009 5:19:58 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: LS

I heard that we will have two retirements before the end of 2010 in the Supreme Court...two liberals but two Justices just the same. I wonder who will be chosen to replace them.


10 posted on 12/24/2009 5:21:37 AM PST by napscoordinator
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Here’s his website:

http://www.brownforussenate.com/senator-brown

It’s too bad the talk show guys are mostly on vacation right now because they could invite him on their shows and raise some money, like Hoffman in NY-23.


11 posted on 12/24/2009 5:24:01 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: LS

“..No conservative president or congress has ever dismantled the Department of Education or Department of Energy.”

Has one EVER even made a serious attempt to do this?


12 posted on 12/24/2009 5:26:27 AM PST by Muzzle_em (Adopt a new furry best friend today! They have nothing but love to give.)
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To: Daisyjane69

Brown is a rino


13 posted on 12/24/2009 5:27:51 AM PST by Billg64 (It is my belief that this is our last opportunity to peacefully protect our republic.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

There os one thing to try before secession, nullification. It a tough play too. But the options to fight this in washington dc are dead now. There is no way gop will repeal this even if they get the numbers.

http://texas.tenthamendmentcenter.com


14 posted on 12/24/2009 5:28:22 AM PST by Pantera
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Some state has to go first. Then others will follow. But it's time to leave the party.

I would imagine that Texas and Alaska, two states that I think could stand as their own countries, would be the first to leave (again).

It is going to go down like this... first... countries like China simply are going to stop lending money to us because they know that with over a hundred trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities, there is simply no way the US government can pay the interest on the debt, much less any principal.

Second, because the need for money still won't be contained, the US will simply resort to printing more money. Both of these moves will make the US dollar even more worthless than it is.

Third, since no welfare program ever gets cut, and demand always increases, defense will be gutted to help pay for pay for welfare. Though at that point it will be moot because worthless dollars cannot buy advanced military technology, and I cannot imagine that soldiers are going to put their lives on the line for nothing.

Without a real currency, and without a military, states which want freedom will be able to leave very easily, and foreign powers will be able to take for themselves what is left. It will be just like what happened to the Western Roman Empire. It was so burdened by government expenditures that it simply had to abandon vast swaths of territory because it could not afford to pay its military to defend them, and in the end enemies from without were able to take for themselves what was left.

My daughter is one year old now. And I do not imagine that the country she will end up growing old in will be the United States of America.

15 posted on 12/24/2009 5:28:48 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Billg64

Well in MA, that is to be expected. But he will NOT vote for this bill, if his website is any indication.


16 posted on 12/24/2009 5:29:06 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: incredulous joe

I’m no expert, but I predict the nation will be broke in very short order; without healthcare for anyone.
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A safe bet seeing that the nation is broke already and healthcare is already becoming harder to obtain. We will soon be trying to import doctors and nurses by the millions from the Phillipines, India etc. Many people will not be able to see the same provider twice in a row even if they do manage to see someone for two or three minutes in six months.


17 posted on 12/24/2009 5:29:18 AM PST by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a leftist is like trying to catch sunshine in a fish net at midnight.)
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To: Muzzle_em

Ronnie with Ed Mease...this was before serious grassroots conservative groups though.


18 posted on 12/24/2009 5:30:45 AM PST by Def Conservative (Obama is a joke.)
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To: LS

Constitutional amendment for congressional term limits and the the right of recall.


19 posted on 12/24/2009 5:31:24 AM PST by Charlespg
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To: LS
I think there is a way out, sort of a bloodless revolution, but I don't know if the Republicans have the stomach for it.

Simply put, the people have to elect huge Republican/Conservative majorities in both houses, the presidency would be nice too, but not necessary. Then they would have to begin impeachment hearings on all those federal judges who violate their oath of office, to wit, they do not uphold the constitution. After a couple of hundred impeachments, maybe things would change.

20 posted on 12/24/2009 5:31:39 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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