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To: MrEdd
But libertarians ARE conservative though.
Why can't we agree to disagree on the social issues, and join together on the fiscal ones for now? That's all libertarians are saying. Theocratic big government conservatives are no better than liberals.
68 posted on 12/30/2009 5:24:03 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (10 YEARS OF FREEPING! HAPPY ANNIVERSARY EEE!!!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist


You are not going to be able to leave one faction of the GOP Conservative Stool out and win this battle.

You will lose miserably!

Each faction has to decide what is most important to them and agree to give each other faction what is important to them.

This is the Reagan way!

So the Fiscal Conservatives will have to give the Social Conservative their Pro-Life and Anti-Gay Marriage issues and also give the NEOCons their strong military.

The Social Conservatives will have to give the Fiscal Conservatives their limited government and the NEOCons their strong military.

And the NEOCons will have to give the Fiscal Conservatives their limited government and the Social Conservatives their Social Issues (Pro-Life and Anti-Gay Marriage).

If you tell any of these groups they cannot have their signature issues, you lose them and the next election and every other election you try this loser formula.

In short, it means each of the three groups have to grow up and quit being selfish with regards to their goals.
79 posted on 12/30/2009 5:32:18 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Because the social issues are way to important to compromise on.

A point is reached where comnservative in some areas isn’t good enough. Things that are worth fightiung for remain worth fighting for.

The life of children is one of those things.
The security of the nation is another.

I was libertarian back in the 70’s. The movement had infighting back then, and the old faction with values I held were abandoned in total. Today’s libertine party bears superficial resemblance at best to the libertarian ideals of that bygon era of my youth.

Ron Paul’s anti military kookiness alone is reason enough to reject both him, and anyone who lacks the moral rectitude to disavow themselves of him.


139 posted on 12/30/2009 8:56:25 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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