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1 posted on 01/04/2010 5:16:58 PM PST by Battle Axe
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Prayers up. 417 is way high...


2 posted on 01/04/2010 5:20:30 PM PST by PilotDave (America; nice while it lasted... I miss it already.)
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To: Battle Axe

I gave one of my cats (from 8 thru 10 years old.) a shot a day of insulin for 2 years. Have to kind of guess at dosage, unfortunately.

If the blood sugar can be stabilized, she can be ok. Still, not a good prognosis

(cat didn’t like that needle, for sure)


3 posted on 01/04/2010 5:24:08 PM PST by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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Some friends had a kitty with diabetes and one was a nurse. She was able to do the insulin shots right before meals to keep Colonel Kitty fairly happy. The shot is really very simple and he did not have a problem with it, especially when he knew he was getting the good food, right after.

It is a very small needle, and I even did it when I was cat sitting, so it really was easy. I can email more if you like but it was very simple.

DK


4 posted on 01/04/2010 5:24:59 PM PST by Dark Knight
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To: Battle Axe

I don’t know about cats, but we have a diabetic Gordon Setter dog, and has been for 4 years. Cats get it more than dogs. Our baby has lived a full life, it’s just a pain in the butt for us. We check her with a human monitor 4 times a day, we’re lucky I can come home for lunch break. Carefully monitor what she eats and she gets 2 shots a day, one at 7 am and 1 at 6 pm, that’s about it.


5 posted on 01/04/2010 5:25:42 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: Battle Axe

I’ve had two cats and a dog with diabetes. The cats were getting insulin injections twice a day. We found out that if we split the dose, it was easier to control the blood sugar. Both cats and the dog lived to an old age and amazed the vet.

My husband is really good at giving shots and he would grab the back of the neck and give the shot there.

Diabetes seems to be fairly common in older cats.


6 posted on 01/04/2010 5:28:48 PM PST by SamiGirl
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I think it is kinder to put a cat down than give it shots every day.

I know, y’all get attached to a particular special friend. I am not trying to be cruel or insensitive.

You can get a doomed cat from the pound for far less money in honor of your late friend, and do a lot more good that way, I believe.


7 posted on 01/04/2010 5:30:36 PM PST by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Battle Axe

RULE #1 -— DON’T PANIC!!! Your cat has been diabetic for a while already, acting perfectly normal except for the increased water intake and the wet cat litter. Now you know, so you can do something about it.

I’m sorry to hear about your kitty. Second, really listen to your Vet -— this is important, and ask for handouts or further explanation if you have any questions. There are things that can be done and sometimes work very well.

Changing to an all meat canned cat food can’t hurt. Actually, it does seem to help more than you might expect for many cases of diabetes in cats. Discuss this with your Vet and see what they think:
http://www.catnutrition.org/catkins.php

Insulin injections are probably in your kitty’s future as well. Most cats tolerate these tiny injections quite well. A few cats even recover well enough to get off insulin.

I wish you the best. And 15 isn’t too old, my brother’s cat is a feeble 23 years old, but she’s still chugging along.


8 posted on 01/04/2010 5:32:42 PM PST by LTC.Ret (I know I am a racist, but . . . . I didn't spend 31 years in the Army to see my USA turn socialist!)
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To: Battle Axe

I had a cat with diabetes and she went on well for 3+ years after being diagnosed. The shots are a snap (just be sure to vary the injection sites), and the cat doesn’t even notice. Best of luck to you and Miss Peach.


12 posted on 01/04/2010 5:36:53 PM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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Ping for kitty advice.


14 posted on 01/04/2010 5:41:35 PM PST by TheMom (I'm now a grandma! Welcome to the world Kaiden Thomas.)
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Ping.


16 posted on 01/04/2010 5:44:49 PM PST by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123)
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To: Battle Axe
Just a comment on your homepage, I am still laughing...good one....Diabetes is easily controlled with insulin if the person is not producing Insulin. If the person is producing insulin but in not large enough quantity sometimes they can get by with pills than stimulate the Isle of Langerhans to produce more insulin...

It is extremely rare for someone to be what is called a brittle diabetic...that is one who's body cannot use the insulin that is injected or the pill...

In my years nursing I had only seen 1 brittle diabetic and his blood/sugar would sometimes go over 1000....it did much damage to his body, but there was nothing at the time that could be done for such people...

I am just guessing but I think at 15 it will probably be insulin...the injections are what is called sub Q, and are not painful. Not like getting a shot of penicillin with those big needles...

2 of my 4 sons has mature onset of diabetes, they both take pills, but if they lost some weight, it might help...diet is important in a diabetic. Your family will need lots of teaching on the subject. Don't be afraid to ask questions. If she is in the hospital, she will probably be seen by a dietitian and specialist in endocrinology..

hope this helps. Diabetes is not cured, its controlled..

18 posted on 01/04/2010 5:53:33 PM PST by goat granny
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I found this site years after we had a diabetic cat, who we cared for, for about three years before he was diagnosed with cancer.

http://www.felinediabetes.com/

We found that giving him his shot when he was eating worked great; just gently pick up the scruff of his neck, skin and fur, and inject there.

I look back and wish I had known about catkins, but I don’t know if it was around back then.

Here is a link at the feline diabetes site that has a list of gluten free cat food by Fancy Feast. I now feed my two maine coons this food. http://www.felinediabetes.com/glutenfree.htm
I can usually get it at PetCo for about .50 a can on sale. In fact, it is on sale from Sunday until Jan 13th I think.

It seems really scary at first, but it can be done.

Prayers and well wishes.


19 posted on 01/04/2010 5:56:06 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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My mother has an aging cat with diabetes. She loves the cat very much. She gives the cat shots everyday, twice a day I think. She would never stop doing this for her cat. It could go on for years and the cat is not very mobile anymore.

Neither of them seems very happy. I have a feeling it would be better to let the cat slip away humanely but my mother will not even consider it for a moment. She says she would be very lonely, in addition to not being willing to put the cat down for other obvious reasons.

You will have to decide for yourself whether you are more like me or my mom, I’m afraid.

Best wishes.


20 posted on 01/04/2010 5:56:14 PM PST by paulycy (AMERICA: Less safe. Less free. More broke.)
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Our own Viking Kitty developed diabetes as well. He made it about a year on twice daily insulin. Last fall he had turn for the worse and couldn’t be balanced enough to recover.

We do miss him.


22 posted on 01/04/2010 6:01:33 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Will Algore give me carbon credits for using treehuggers as home heating fuel? ~~ Galt/Reardon 2012)
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Our kitty is now 14, he's been diabetic for over 2 years now. Doing fine, two shots a day though, one at 7:30 a.m. one at 7:30 p.m.....he sits still for them, doesn't mind at all....but he gets a treat so he's mostly waiting for that. He gotten used to the routine

He stayed at the vet for a few days in the beginning, we did have to rush him back a few weeks later...too much vetsulin, he had a seizure...then we kept Karo syrup on hand but it didn't happen again, thankfully, still something to have on hand in case.

He's his old self and is enjoying his kitty life, it's hard to go away though, we have to get a pet sitter, that can give needles.

23 posted on 01/04/2010 6:05:04 PM PST by empressword (Snow & Cold in Copenhagen? That is so Cool!)
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I also have a 13 year old cat with diabietes that I have been giving 2 injections a day to. She gets 9 units each time and I wll take care of her until her last breath, she is my baby. When she was diagnosed she was in very bad shape, had lost a lot of weight and was listless. Once we started her on insulin she got back to normal in a short amount of time and even plays again. I give her her injections at mealtime while she eats, she doesn't even notice the injection (she's too busy eating :-}).

SF

24 posted on 01/04/2010 6:10:48 PM PST by SwampFoxOfVa
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27 posted on 01/04/2010 6:23:30 PM PST by Republican Extremist
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SAA — I don’t know if you still do the kittypings, but if you do, you may want to ping the list — FReeper kitty needs help.


29 posted on 01/04/2010 6:44:25 PM PST by SmartInsight (Dems in power are a clear and present danger to our freedom and our survival)
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Diabetes is NOT a death sentence in cats!

www.felinediabetes.com is an excellent site, with solid, useful information. Referring there helped me keep my diabetic cat going for years after he was diagnosed--he's still alive today.

Briefly: you will need to measure blood sugar levels at home, with a handheld meter. Select one that takes a small sample size. This is the most difficult part.

You may be giving your cat insulin. This is not difficult--it is far easier than giving a cat a pill.

Dry foods are probably killing our cats. I don't know of any formulas that do not contain grains, and cats are OBLIGATE CARNIVORES. They do not have the metabolic means of dealing with a heavy load of carbohydrates.

Switch to a good canned, meat based formula. The feline diabetes site has a chart showing brand names and levels of fibre. Low fibre indicates low plant content, which indicates low carbohydrates. Read labels. Avoid "gravy" formulas. There is a relationship between price and quality, but it isn't exact--you can probably find something reasonably priced that will keep your cat in great health.

My cat has lived 6+ years after diagnosis. He will be 17 shortly. He's slightly arthritic, but still sweet and playful. The last 6 years have been good years.
30 posted on 01/04/2010 6:49:53 PM PST by Nepeta
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Corn syrup in human food = diabetes; corn meal in pet food = diabetes. Simple as that.


33 posted on 01/04/2010 6:57:34 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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