President Obama's birth doctor, James Ang'awa, was neighbors with Barack Obama Senior in the 1960s

allafrica.com and Mary Ang'awa (Dr. James Ang'awa's daughther) ^ | 03.05.2010 | InspectorSmith

[InspectorSmith]

Dr Ang'awa had worked in Embu, Kiambu, Kilifi, Mombasa, Kakamega and Bungoma and was one of the best known members of the medical profession in the country.

Her father was brutally killed when she was a teenager more than 40 years ago, but Lady Justice Mary Ang'awa has opted to forgive his killer. During her reflection at a recent meeting to plan the 40th anniversary of the death of her father, she had no qualms about offering a pardon. "I have forgiven you," she says is the message she has for the killer of Dr James Ang'awa.

One of the pioneer medical specialists in the country, Dr Ang'awa was hit on the head with a blunt object on Tom Mboya Street by an unknown assailant.

A police inquest cleared a suspect who had been arrested although Justice Ang'awa is not convinced the decision was the right one. "My father died a painful death. Investigations and inquests were concluded. I and my brothers--Antony, Hillary, Charles and William-- have climbed a steep path to success with the guidance of our mother Perez. So the best thing to do is to forgive the killer," she told the Sunday Nation.

At the time of her father's death, Justice Ang'awa was a Form One student at Limuru Girls' high school. Her family enjoyed a comfortable life; her father was establishing a reputation for his research into treatment of tuberculosis.

The family lived in high-class government quarters in Upper Hill. Among their neighbours were Dr Njoroge Mungai, former President Kenyatta's personal physician, President Kibaki, who was then minister for Finance and the late Barack Obama Sr, father of American President Barack Obama.

The family was evicted from the house three months after Dr Ang'awa's death.

[Mik Taerg]

“The New CA is not available for the signature, so the Person delivering the document, not Maganga, signs it. Again, Old stamp no longer available”

Interesting.

Do you realize counterfeting a signature on an official document makes the entire document a fraud ?

[etraveler13]

I don’t know how to ping people, but I will post a reply if I get it..

[woofie]

When Smith is “done replying to you” it means he cant avoid the questions anymore

[little jeremiah]

You ping me by hitting “reply” to the comment, and adding my name in the “to” box.

Thanks!

[etraveler13]

I am not stating a fact, simply postulating a theory.

[etraveler13]

I can do that...

[woofie]

I also have a theory involving amnesia , shop lifting, and a gallon of pea soup.

[etraveler13]

FDLMAO...I agree, theories are just that...

[Mik Taerg]

But another story from the Nairobi Nation that calls him “Helton” that Mik Taerg once said that this news outlet only called him “Helten”, obviously it is not true.

I never said that. I don’t want to repost all my links since you wouldn’t read them anyways. The Helton spelling originates from an article by The Standard, reported by other sources as well. To verify go to the Kenyan mirror of Google, select “English” and “from Kenya”.
http://www.google.co.ke/webhp?hl=en&source=hp&btnG=Google+Search&cr=countryKE&aq=f&aqi=&oq=

then type in quotes “Helton Maganga”
enter

select: “repeat the search with the omitted results included.”

you get the source article
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/archives/InsidePage.php?id=1144017299&cid=159

then repeat the process type in quotes “Heltan Maganga”
remember to select: “repeat the search with the omitted results included.”

you get the other stories
http://www.google.co.ke/search?hl=en&q=%22Heltan+Maganga%22&meta=cr%3DcountryKE&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

[Mik Taerg]

i confrin your find about The Nation having once spelled him Helton Maganga.

Here are the results on The Nation internal search engine:
http://www.nation.co.ke/page/search/DailyNation/-/1148/1148/-/view/asSearch/-/r4tvx4z/-/index.html

Helton Maganga:
http://www.nation.co.ke/Mombasa/-/519978/666878/-/naqvmh/-/index.html

Heltan Maganga:
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/857262/-/vq13j4/-/index.html
http://www.nation.co.ke/Mombasa/-/519978/847530/-/ocow6d/-/index.html
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/673180/-/uo0vtt/-/index.html
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/624060/-/ukxuu7/-/index.html
http://www.nation.co.ke/News/-/1056/612678/-/ukb32e/-/index.html

[Red Steel]

You - I never said that.

Yes you did.

You - "Heltan or Helton ?

All articles in The Nation, a Nairobi paper, call him Heltan."

Not all articles published by The Nation called him Dr Maganga "Helten". This Nation's article said his name and title was "the chief administrator at the hospital, Dr Helton Maganga"

By ANTHONY KITIMO Posted Friday, October 2 2009 at 18:04 http://www.nation.co.ke/Mombasa/-/519978/666878/-/naqvmh/-/index.html

You - "The Helton spelling originates from an article by The Standard, reported by other sources as well."

No, not when the story is written by "ANTHONY KITIMO" who writes for The Nation.

The Google results The Standard newspaper "www.standardmedia.co.ke" and "ANTHONY+KITIMO"

Your search - "ANTHONY KITIMO " site:www.standardmedia.co.ke - did not match any documents. .

[Red Steel]

i confrin your find about The Nation having once spelled him Helton Maganga.

And I reconfirmed it in my post above #771.

[InspectorSmith]

Great Kim aka Mik Taerg is a terrible researcher.

Below are 4 different Kenyan news sources for HELTON.

1. “Coast Provincial General Hospital chief administrator Helton Muganga also expressed willingness to assist in investigations.”

Written by Kenyan reporter Kepher Otieno. Date: 08.12.2009

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/archives/InsidePage.php?id=1144021260&cid=459

2. “The Chief Administrator at Coast General Hospital Helton Maganga, said he expects the number of patients to rise.”

Written by Kenyan reporter Willis Oketch. Date: 06.19.2009

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/archives/InsidePage.php?id=1144017299&cid=159

3. ““We have counselled the mother and she is now in in good health and spirits since yesterday started breastfeeding the baby,” the chief administrator at the hospital, Dr Helton Maganga said.”

Written by Kenyan reporter ANTHONY KITIMO. Date: 10.02.2009

http://www.nation.co.ke/Mombasa/-/519978/666878/-/naqvmh/-/index.html

4. “”We are still receiving more patients from various parts of the province who have been diagnosed with the ailment. However, we are doing everything possible to provide the necessary treatment needed,” Helton Maganga, chief administrator at the Coast Provincial General Hospital, the largest referral hospital in the province, told IRIN on 18 June.”

Written by BY IRIN (Integrated Regional Information Network for Central and Eastern Africa. Date: 06.18.2009

http://www.irinnews.org/Report.aspx?ReportId=84901

Note all are spelled HELTON. Number one (#1) also has complete DIFFERENT spelling of Helton Maganga’s last name as “Muganga”.

In Swahili names are spelled out phonetically. You’ll find that in many places in Africa there is no standard spelling for names, especially when Swahili word and names are spelled out with the Indo-European alphabet. Swahili never had a written form of it’s language until Arabs taught Swahili speakers to spell out Swahili in Arabic and then later when Europeans taught Swahili speakers to spell out Swahili in the Indo-European alphabet.

In any case we now see that Great Kim’s aka Mik Taerg’s claims of there only being ONE (1) source for the spelling of HELTON is totally without merit (yet is typical of any claim that Great Kim aka Mik Taerg has ever put out in his quest for recoginition).

Thank you.

(PS: This is to Kim / Mik. Since were are the subject AGAIN of name spelling in Kenya and other places in Kenya COULD YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY the other past chief admistrator, OTHIGO, at Coast Province General Hospital has MANY MANY MANY different spellings of her name in the Kenyan news sources AND Kenyan medical reports, directories and document?

Now let’s discuss your favorite figure....Jennifer Othigo....or is that her name???
Or is her name .....”Merry Jennifer Otieno Othiga”. Is it Othigo or Othiga? Come on now Kim. Tell us. Hey, I even have an offical Kenya source here:
http://www.marsgroupkenya.org/multimedia/?StoryID=191135&storydate=2007-08-24

Then there’s .... “Jenipher Othigo”. So what is it Kim, Jennifer or Jenipher? Hey, I have a source for that one as well:
http://www.5footkitchen.com/2008/09/jambo-from-kenya.html

Then there’s...... “Mary J Othigo”.....So which is it Kim, is it Merry or is it Mary? And hey again, I even have a very official source that one. It’s a medical directory. Yippie! (I know how you so love the online Kenyan medical directories)
http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1471-2393-9-51.pdf
By the way, which is first same, is it Jennifer or is it Merry? (Not that we know how to spell either if those names).

Then we have..... “Joyce Othigo”......wow....so is her name Jennifer is it Joyce? Those darn Kenyans. I found that one on a very official document:
http://www.popcouncil.org/pdfs/frontiers/fr_finalreports/interregional_grippsuppl.pdf

Then there’s.......”Janet Othigo”....double wow....so is her name Jennifer or Jenipher or Joyce or Janet? And again I have a very official medical source”
http://www.esdproj.org/site/DocServer/USAID_AMKENI_Integrated_Model_in_Reproducive_Health_in_K.pdf?docID=901

Then again we have the “Merry Jennifer Othigo”. Another source for MERRY vs MARY. An official Kenyan source at that.
http://www.maqweb.org/iudtoolkit/policies_guidelines/kenyafpguidelines.pdf

Then we have yet another twist....”deputy administrator Jeniffer Othigo”. Notice this time that Jeniffer is spelled with double “FF” and one “N”. While on many other online sources her name is spelled with a double “NN” and only one “F”. How do you explain this Kim??? And oh dear....that one is from an online Kenyan news source:
http://allafrica.com/stories/200801020026.html

Oh dear, oh dear.....look here....the same Kenyan news outlet has spelled her name as “ hospital’s deputy administrator, Dr Jennipher Othigo”. Notice the double “NN” now. And this time there’s not even an “F” in the name, this time they us a “P”.
http://allafrica.com/stories/200801070067.html

What now Kim, how do explain all of these different spellings and complete names?

I could go on and on and on and on. The sources for her name are all over the Internet (Kenyan sources). Medical documents and other official sites.

So now Kim, let’s say that Othigo’s name (if that’s how it’s even spelled) was on the CPGH Obama birth certificate. What would you say about all of these MANY MANY MANY MANY MANY different spellings of her name(s)???

Which one is the correct spelling? Would you judge a birth certificate with Othigo’s endorsement to be a forgery based on her name’s spelling???

I have many official sources for her name’s many different spelling. So which is correct Kim?

Come on, answer the questions Kim. After all, you are the one that brought Othigo into all of this.

Stop with the simpleton answer of, “It doesn’t matter Lucas. We’re talking about Helton here Lucas, not Othigo.”
Do you know how tremendously retarded and obtuse that an answer such as that sounds? Here you are battling it out for months now about the HELTON vs HELTAN spelling (based on Kenyan newspaper and two Kenyan online medical directories) but yet you dismiss the MANY MANY MANY spelling of Othigo’s name being not important.
Do you understand what you are saying?

I have MANY official sources for the spellings of Othigo’s name(s). Many more than you could ever dream of finding for Helton. I have listed many here and can list scores more from different websites which back up each spelling.
So now, after all of this, can you sort of understand what I have been saying from the outset? When people in Kenya and other African nations are spelling out words and names in Swahili, they spell them out phonetically, the way that it sounds to them.

Do you even know what the significance of “phonetic” is? Let me rephrase (that question might go over your head.) Do you know what the definition of “ phonetic” is? Quick, off to google and wikiepdia you go. Find your answer Kim.
In closing, please do attempt to respond with answers that make just a bit of sense.

Thank you.
Respectfully,
Lucas D. Smith
PS. I’ve noticed that you yourself have written over the past few months both MARY and MERRY. I suppose that now you will just stick with just “Othigo” now since that is a much safer bet. (Even though it might might be “Othiga”. But please do tell us which is correct of ALL the names, including MERRY vs MARY. And also explain why you and how you know which is correct. PLEASE DO THIS WITH ALL THE NAMES.

[Mik Taerg]

Hi Lucas,

your post is a terrible waste of time. Quite sorry for causing this distraction to your other lucrative activities.

It is a fact that

neither Helton Maganga
nor Heltan Maganga

was CA on Feb 19th 2009.

It is a fact that

either Jennifer Othigo
or Merry Jennifer Othigo
or Jane Othigo

was CA on Feb 19th 2009

it is a fact that

your forgery carries the samp of Dr.Helton Maganga

it is a fact that

your forgery carries a date samp for the date Feb 19th 2009.

it is a fact that

you have not explained this

[woofie]

Smith has disappeared on us....I like to think he is somewhere deep in Africa

[Mik Taerg]

well there is something new:

What a Kenyan BC from 1961 could have looked like:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/29022143/Kenyan-Certificate

THE BIRTHS AND DEATHS REGISTRATION RULES

http://www.kenyalaw.org/kenyalaw/klr_app/view_content.php?ContentHistoryID=24006

This law is from the foundation of Indipendent Kenya

The link well expalains all the procedures to acquire a BC in Kenya. The link contains all possible BC forms and registrar notations

It is very clear that:

Hospitals do not issue BCs, these are issued by the registrar upon notification from the Hospital
Hospitals issue Birth Notification Sheets

[woofie]

I bet Smith is gonna show up any minute now and explain all this

[Mik Taerg]

he or one of his groupies.

I have said this is what a Kenyan BC from 1961 COULD have looked like. The law is infact form 1963 - Kenyan Indipendence. He will argue that in the Colonial times rules were different. At the moment I cannot disprove that.
He likes to talk about “transition phases” such as the one that he argues implied two Chief Administrators at CPGH. He will need to do profound study in order to have us believe that the transition from Protectorate to Indipendent Nation was an exceptional one in the case of Kenya and did not imply the usual absorption of most existing laws into the new body of rules (such as in the cases of all other former British colonies including the US). Smith will have to venture into the field of “predecession and succession of States theory” and make his brain boil over the fact that this same praxis implies Obama
cannot be considered a British Citizen by Birth. This birthright is infact voided by the Indipendence Act of KEnya which makes all Kenyans Kenyan Citizen. Where it to be different many of us Americans could still claim British Citizenship: sons of sons of sons of British Citizens as Great Britain confers citizenship by Right of Blood.

[Plummz]

Except that for one thing, Kenya isn’t even really independent. It’s still a part of the British commonwealth.

Second, and related, The Kenyan “Independence” Act conferred a Kenyan nationality in addition to the British nationality. Ate age of 15 or so (it was changed at some point), Barry would have had to renounce his British nationality to keep his Kenyan nationality. Assuming Barry never did so, his “independent” Kenyan nationality expired some time in the 1980s, yet his British nationality remains.

his Indonesian nationality would have expired when he took office in Illinois; or perhaps earlier — whenever he positively affirmed a nationality other than Indonesian.

[trueliber]

His murder may be irrelevant, but his death is not. He is not available to testify that he indeed delivered Obe in Mombasa. Most unfortunate.