How Much Ammo, and Why?

Vanity | 3/8/10 | dagogo redux

[DBrow]

lol You will be one of the neighbors coming to me for ammo!

Approach the sandbags slowly with your hands in plain sight and clearly say “Eagles Up!”

There is no clear best, or even likely, scenario.

[Cheeks]

“Boston’s Gun Bible” answers a lot of these questions. It has a priority list of what you may need.

[Noumenon]

Outstanding! That’s what it’s all about.

[FLAMING DEATH]

As kind of a preparatory guide to making it through a country’s collapse, you can’t beat FerFal’s compiled writings. Fascinating and informative, if you haven’t read it. If you have, maybe someone else will get some benefit.

http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/portal/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2079&Itemid=2

I’ve read it four or five times, and I follow his blog here:

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/

[ctdonath2]

Minimum: 1000 rounds per piece.
That’s a good convenient number, ensuring you’ll have enough for whatever earnest application you run into. Any time you go under that amount, it’s easy to just buy another case.

Reasonable: enough to burn out every barrel.
Each barrel has a finite lifespan. Considering prices will only go up, buy enough consumables now to satisfy that lifespan.

[Noumenon]

You are correct in that it will NOT be like on TV, where the good guy always wins. But you're going to need more confidence and determination in order to get through what's coming down the pike. Men who know how to think and do will be the ones with the best odds of pulling through. Men with the determination to live and to win will have the best odds of pulling through.

Don't give up. That's for liberal collectivist monkeys whose tiny and inconsequential skillsets wouldn't keep them warm or feed them if their lives depended upon them. So they'll die and die badly. That's not you. It doesn't have to be you. Follow the link and read the book.

[bestintxas]

“Honestly, it’s a load off of my mind to not have to worry about someone coming in and stealing all those guns and all that ammunition I used to have here.”

The preacher who married us lived right outside OKC, and was executed by an escaped con who also murdered his wife, shot his young son and raped his daughter.

No, I think I sleep better at night knowing I have at least the opportunity to do something about it if someone tries to hurt me and family.

[Pessimist]

I wouldn’t say it’s my ~plan~. Nor would I say “after firing several hundred rounds” is early.

I think it’s a realistic view.

Hey, you can buy all you want. It’s none of my business.

Somebody just asked for opinions, and I gave mine.

[Pessimist]

I have no intention of “giving up”.

My sincere hope would be to ice as many zombies as possible.

Bu my realistic analysis is that I won’t survive forever in such circumstances.

So when people talk about 10k rounds of every caliber, etc, I think all theyre doing is providing a stockpile for the guy who kills them.

[thackney]

From my point of view, I don’t expect to be firing alone.

Nor do I intend to buy more than I can use and share anyways.

Cheers and Go Bucks!

[Doomonyou]

Don't forget a buttload of these to go with all that ammo.

[equalitybeforethelaw]

Just for info’s sake - what’s your time running the 100?
just askin

With a zombie behind me its propably pretty fast. Good news is zombies seem a little slow both mentally and physically. The bad news is when they come, they come in large numbers. One advantage I think we may have is our sense of smell, methinks the living dead would smell something awful.

[wbarmy]

True that, but anything can be a “battle rifle” if you know what you are doing. Even a Bushmaster .223.

[GonzoGOP]

Here's another: Now that a lot of us (me excluded) have stocked up, what should be the next items one should consider buying?

"Go Fast" bag. Everyone should have one. A backpack with a few changes of socks and underpants, a pair of jeans, a jacket and either hiking boots or at least good gym shoes. A proper canteen is also a good thing to have clipped onto the "Go Fast" bag. Remember you may be at work when the SHTF and surviving in the wilderness in a suit, tie and dress shoes is no fun at all. So tell the wife/husband/eldest kid to grab the "Go Fast" bag and meat you at Aunt Mary's. You may also want to pack a "Go Bang" box. You know the tool box where you keep the pistol, cleaning kits, gun oil, spare mags and a few hundred rounds of ammo. Remember to throw in a couple of silica gel packets, cool dry ammo is happy ammo.

Camping equipment. Even if you plan is to run to Aunt Mary's house in the country, there will probably be a bunch of other people running to Aunt Mary's so be prepared to sleep on the floor, or in your truck. Having a fishing pole and tackle box will at least put meat on the table occasionally. Sure a bluegill may not look like much, but McDonald's may not be serving billions any more. Keep it in one or two of those big Rubbermaid bins so that when the time comes you don't have to sort through it, just grab and throw into the back of the truck.

And on that topic take your kids camping. Be used to living without all the comforts of modern life for a week at a time. That way when those things are no longer available everyone in the family will know that they can do it. It also ensures that as you run out the door with your Go Fast bag you can tell the little kids it will be "just like camping". They can panic later once you are someplace safe.

One of those portable batteries that can be charged either off 110 or a car's cigarette lighter. Make sure it has a 110 outlet and jumper cables. Even if it provides only a few hours of power that may make the difference in getting a car started, recharging a phone or walkie talkie, or just being able to see while you stitch up a wound. Keep it fully charged and near whatever car you intend to use in the bailout.

A wind up flashlight and radio. Batteries are heavy and in a SHTF situation will be worth their weight in gold. Having communication and a flashlight that doesn't need them can be a big bonus. Even if you intend to ride out the storm from where you are, don't assume you will always have electricity. Even if you have a generator gas is going to get rare and expensive.

Food that you don't mind eating. Don't stock three years of MREs if you don't like MREs. Even the legendary MRE has a use by date. And if not rotated they will just go bad and you are out the money, or worse yet you need them and they went bad sitting on the shelf. Simple things like granola bars, canned veggies, canned chili are all good. Keep a couple of weeks worth on hand and rotate the stock. Also have something to drink. A couple gallons of water on hand is good, or even just means stock up on Gatorade when it is on sale.

[Secret Agent Man]

“They” would be anyone he’d be talking to who wants to cause trouble for him.

Stockpiling is what you do as a good boy scout to be prepared for something that COULD happen. It is taking personal responsibility to not be a burden on your neighbors or community. It is self-sufficiency. Not greed.

Hoarding is what people do AFTER something happens where possible limits on how much you can buy are in place so that the unprepared people can have some time to buy items. Hoarding cuts into the greed some people might have to clean out a store AFTER the SHTF and not care about anyone else when they had plenty of time beforehand to prepare.

That’s why if there ever IS a SHTF moment, your prior preparations aren’t ‘hoarding’ and should not be explained as such, otherwise word will get around and authorities will be notified you are ‘hoarding’ when you weren’t and guess how fast that stuff will be taken from you unless you have your receipts.

[Gator113]

“If one is not prepared to use 6 then 6000 is pointless.”

Of all of the considered advise and/or opinions provided within this thread... those words ring the truest. ;>)

[OKSooner]

So, you’re saying that I really DID need to use a sarcasm tag? :)

[dagogo redux]

Great replies, y’all. Thanks!

[BerserkPatriot]

Excellent points -one basic consideration to think about would be to plan for a couple different scenarios – Staying in place, bugging out in a vehicle or bugging out on foot – depending on what’s happening.

Having plan for each one of those scenarios would probably be one of the best ways to get ready.

The point about the food is also very important – no one knows When something might happen, or What might happen.

Buying non-perishables that would normally eat and rotating them through you supplies is a good way of making sure you are ready at all times and that they have the longest shelf life.

[bestintxas]

Yep, if you’re from Oklahoma