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A High-Mobility 72 Hour Kit
03/24/2010 | noumenon

Posted on 03/24/2010 4:12:18 PM PDT by Noumenon

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To: oldenuff2no

well worth repeating “There are a lot of us country boys/vets out here” . We 3%’rs will not lay down and summit.


141 posted on 03/25/2010 7:08:28 AM PDT by piroque
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To: familyop
LOL! Heed the warning in oldenuff2no's comment #17. He knows what he's talking about.

bump well said

142 posted on 03/25/2010 7:12:29 AM PDT by piroque
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To: Noumenon

If you have a ping list, would you add me to it, please?


143 posted on 03/25/2010 7:14:50 AM PDT by OB1kNOb ( I WILL NOT COMPLY !)
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To: Travis McGee

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1 ‘‘(2) other factors, as the Secretary determines
2 appropriate.
3 ‘‘(e) AUTHORIZATION OF APPROPRIATIONS.—For the
4 purposes of carrying out this section, there are authorized
5 to be appropriated $50,000,000 for the fiscal year 2010 and
6 such sums as may be necessary for each of the fiscal years
7 2011 through 2014.’’.
8 SEC. 5209. ELIMINATION OF CAP ON COMMISSIONED
9 CORPS.
10 Section 202 of the Department of Health and Human
11 Services Appropriations Act, 1993 (Public Law 102–394)
12 is amended by striking ‘‘not to exceed 2,800’’.

13 SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS.
14 Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42
15 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows:
16 ‘‘SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE
17 CORPS.
18 ‘‘(a) ESTABLISHMENT.—
19 ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL.—There shall be in the Service
20 a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve
21 Corps for service in time of national emergency.
22 ‘‘(2) REQUIREMENT.—All commissioned officers
23 shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and
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1 compensated without regard to the Classification Act
2 of 1923, as amended.
3 ‘‘(3) APPOINTMENT.—Commissioned officers of
4 the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the
5 President and commissioned officers of the Regular
6 Corps shall be appointed by the President with the
7 advice and consent of the Senate.
8 ‘‘(4) ACTIVE DUTY.—Commissioned officers of the
9 Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to
10 call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including
11 active duty for the purpose of training.
12 ‘‘(5) WARRANT OFFICERS.—Warrant officers
13 may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of
14 providing support to the health and delivery systems
15 maintained by the Service and any warrant officer
16 appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to
18 be a commissioned officer within the Commissioned
19 Corps of the Service.
20 ‘‘(b) ASSIMILATING RESERVE CORP OFFICERS INTO
21 THE REGULAR CORPS.—Effective on the date of enactment
22 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, all indi23
viduals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this
24 section (as such section existed on the day before the date
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1 of enactment of such Act) and serving on active duty shall
2 be deemed to be commissioned officers of the Regular Corps.
3 ‘‘(c) PURPOSE AND USE OF READY RESEARCH.—
4 ‘‘(1) PURPOSE.—The purpose of the Ready Re5
serve Corps is to fulfill the need to have additional
6 Commissioned Corps personnel available on short no7
tice (similar to the uniformed service’s reserve pro8
gram) to assist regular Commissioned Corps per9
sonnel to meet both routine public health and emer10
gency response missions.
11 ‘‘(2) USES.—The Ready Reserve Corps shall—
12 ‘‘(A) participate in routine training to meet
13 the general and specific needs of the Commis14
sioned Corps;
15 ‘‘(B) be available and ready for involuntary
16 calls to active duty during national emergencies
17 and public health crises, similar to the uni18
formed service reserve personnel;
19 ‘‘(C) be available for backfilling critical po20
sitions left vacant during deployment of active
21 duty Commissioned Corps members, as well as
22 for deployment to respond to public health emer23
gencies, both foreign and domestic; and
24 ‘‘(D) be available for service assignment in
25 isolated, hardship, and medically underserved
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1 communities (as defined in section 799B) to im2
prove access to health services.
3 ‘‘(d) FUNDING.—For the purpose of carrying out the
4 duties and responsibilities of the Commissioned Corps
5 under this section, there are authorized to be appropriated
6 $5,000,000 for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014 for
7 recruitment and training and $12,500,000 for each of fiscal
8 years 2010 through 2014 for the Ready Reserve Corps.’’.

This has the effect of removing all current legal obstructions to the use of military FORCE against the citizen population afforded by posse commitatus. Our President just created his own private army and as he stated numerous times in the campaign he intends to equip it to the full equivalent of our MILITARY forces.

Can somebody tell me what this has to do with universal HEALTH CARE? Why does he need an ARMED FORCE for use inside the country? Does anybody think there is more than a passing similarity to another such force in history known as the GESTAPO? Folks, this isn’t hyperbole — nor is it “chicken little” this is as real as it gets.


144 posted on 03/25/2010 7:16:44 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Do I hear echos of brown shirts or black panthers this go around


145 posted on 03/25/2010 7:35:34 AM PDT by piroque
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To: piroque

I was thinking of Obama’s promised “Civilian Security Force” full of purple shirts, ACORN street punks, and Black Panthers.


146 posted on 03/25/2010 7:37:47 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Plutarch
"...I don’t understand where all this mobility is taking you in the SHTF scenario. Off into the woods, then what?..."

In the case of an EMP attack on the USA during normal business hours, most (producing, upstanding) folks will be at work. However, no unprotected vehicle in the affected area with any kind of electronic controls on the enginge will operate after such an attack. (vehicles with fuel injection, for instance). Thus, you will most likely be walking home for the next day or two, unless you have a horse or bike handy.

A Bug Out Bag (BOB) or Get Out Of Dodge (GOOD) bag contains all the necessary tools to assist you in getting to your home safe, alive, and uninjured.

Keep in mind that Iran, which is trying to create a nuclear weapon as we speak, has also called for the complete destruction of our country. Well, they can't do that with a few nukes. However, a nuke set off in the far upper atmosphere can destroy all unprotected electronic devices for thouseands of miles. It is believed that if the Iranians wants to get the most bang for their nuclear buck, they will commit their bombs to a high-a;titude EMP attack rather than surface detonations. It's a "value-add" for them.

147 posted on 03/25/2010 7:43:16 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns
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To: oldenuff2no

Bump that.
The whole “it’s SHTF/TEOTWAWKI, flee to the countryside” notion is rank ignorance.

1. There’s a whole lotta people doing the same thing.
You won’t be the only one thinking “get outta Dodge”.
You won’t be the only one on the gridlocked roads.
You won’t be the only one finding the hard way that walking all day out of the city only gets you to a different part of the city (a 15 minute drive is an all-day walk).
And by the end of the day you won’t be anywhere that isn’t already overpopulated by like-minded but under-equipped refugees.

2. When you finally get to the rural areas you had in mind, and have somehow out-run & out-traveled most of the refugees and zombies, you’ll find that it’s still more densely populated than you expect, and the residents dug in, prepared, informed, and fiercely territorial. All that land belongs to _somebody_ - even if “owned” via “possession is 9/10ths of the law”. For context, consider: people who move into a rural area discover that it can take _ten_years_ to achieve acceptance by the locals; random strangers setting up camp without permission should not expect friendly accommodation.

3. Even if you can get to your chosen target location, and don’t have a problem with the locals in doing so ... now what? Short of having your own well-maintained well-stocked cabin, you’ve only got what you brought with you - and you just used up 2/3rds of it getting there. Great, now you’ve “made it” with 1 MRE left and a tarp for shelter. You have no refrigeration (short of northern winters), which wouldn’t do much good if you had it ‘cuz the big game population just went to 0 in 2 days flat thanks to everyone else doing the same as you. Yes maybe you’ll survive. Go watch every episode of _Survivorman_ and learn the core lesson: yeah you’ll get by for a week, but you won’t _eat_.

There is only one place for you to go: home. The “high-mobility 72 hour kit”, aka “Bug-Out-Bag” (BoB), is for you to get there. It better be ready for off-the-grid operation.


148 posted on 03/25/2010 7:43:17 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

The “corps” referred to is a team of doctors ready to serve high-casualty scenarios. It’s not an armed military/police corps.


149 posted on 03/25/2010 7:50:33 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: ctdonath2

It is whatever Obama SAYS it is.


150 posted on 03/25/2010 7:56:48 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: ctdonath2; oldenuff2no
Both of you make good points. IMHO, a nationwide SHTF scenario is extremely unlikely. We are now on the road to a squishy Euro-socialist non-productive welfare state, and that should be enough to keep the masses sufficiently sedated so riots don't break out on a widespread basis.

What is always a risk is localized disturbances. Here in CA, the "big one" (earthquake) will happen eventually. There might be extensive destruction. Roads will be damaged, so we won't be driving anywhere. The vast majority of us urban dwellers have no outdoor survival skills, so a long trek into the "country" won't enhance our long-term prospects.

I think the best preparation is to keep some stocks of extra food and ammo. If mobs start pillaging the neighborhood, be prepared to resist with deadly force. Make yourself a hard target, and they will likely move on to find an easier target. Hold out for a few days and wait for order to be restored.

151 posted on 03/25/2010 8:04:55 AM PDT by stillonaroll (Nominate a non-RINO in 2012!)
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To: Travis McGee
"For as long as the freezer is working...."

I have mine vacuum sealed. Gives you many additional years of effectiveness.

152 posted on 03/25/2010 8:24:55 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: ctdonath2
There is only one place for you to go: home. The “high-mobility 72 hour kit”, aka “Bug-Out-Bag” (BoB), is for you to get there. It better be ready for off-the-grid operation.

Precisely. My kit is dsigned to get me out of a 'problem' area and back home - which is in fact out in the countryside. I'm fortunate that the semi-industrial area in which I work has multiple navigable back road routes out while driving is still practical. And once I'm home, we're not going to be taking in strays, if you know what I mean.

In any case, I'm watching for signs. At the first hint of real trouble - like the declaration of a 'bank holiday', for example - I'll be calling in 'sick'. Or excusing myself from my desk and promptly heading home. Why wait for it to get worse? The folks who live in urban areas, well...

Most of them are monkeys who will be wondering what to do well past the time that the gov't pellet-dispensing machine shuts down.

153 posted on 03/25/2010 8:46:37 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Lurker
mmmmmmmmmm.... transit. Great device to learn and to have. Never could afford one myself, but I betcha they'll be turning up at pawnshops more frequently. As for compasses, in addition to the usual type, we have a couple of these:

Very accurate and the next best thing to a transit. Get them here. Best price I've seen on them.

154 posted on 03/25/2010 8:54:57 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: OB1kNOb

No ping list, my friend. Maybe I should start one.


155 posted on 03/25/2010 8:55:53 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Yes, you can get a lot done with a decent ‘hawk. Quick shelter construction, especially if you’re in evergreen forests goes so much better with one. I use a SOG Fusion avialable from Sportsmansguide.com for a little less than $40. Good deal, that. I’ve also got standard hickory-handled ones at home, but the Fusion is the one I carry.


156 posted on 03/25/2010 9:00:50 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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To: Noumenon
I couldn't afford to purchase one myself either. But thanks to a rich Uncle who decided to get some fancy electronic upgrades for his worker bees I came into possession of one.

His loss, my gain.

157 posted on 03/25/2010 9:04:26 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Noumenon
Good article here.
158 posted on 03/25/2010 9:07:01 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Travis McGee
We started doing SAR with our local CAP squadron back in November. They're a pretty serious bunch about locating lost people in the woods, as well as downed aircraft. We've got a standard equipment list for 24 and 72 hour packs for ground teams and I'm here to tell you that "most" people are fooling themselves if they think they're just going to load it up and run out the door... for any distance anyway. Bear in mind that none of this includes weapons or ammo. Well...to be honest, the "rumor" is that most of the seniors carry sidearms somewhere on their gear, even though the regs are very specific and "generally" (except for a few exceptions at Wing Commander's discretion) the carrying of arms is prohibited.

But anyway... a properly equipped (NO weapons or ammo included!) 24 hour pack will weigh 20 to 30 lbs. The 72 hour pack can weigh up to 60 lbs. Add weapons and ammo and some basic maintenance equipment for the weapons and it's going to add up to some considerable weight. We are EXPECTED to be able to carry ALL of it to the forward operating base (wherever that might be!) and leave the 72 gear there.

People can make equipment and supply lists until they're blue in the face but until they get their asses out of their chairs and get into shape, they'll just die tired. :-)
159 posted on 03/25/2010 9:24:21 AM PDT by hiredhand (Understand the CRA and why we're facing economic collapse - see my about page.)
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To: Lurker

Nice. The real prize is the knowledge of its use.


160 posted on 03/25/2010 9:27:19 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Upon what meat doth this our Caesar feed, that he has grown so great?" - Julius Caesar)
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