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To: spintreebob

“Most liberals are good are good hearted and well intentioned.”

I disagree. Most that I’ve met are filled with hate and bitterness. They are envious of those better off, and condescending to those who are not.

They use government as an excuse for their own sins. They want government to care for the poor, so that they do not have to. They want government schools because they don’t want to educate their own kids - assuming they didn’t abort them first.

“19 They know the truth about God because he has made it obvious to them. 20 For ever since the world was created, people have seen the earth and sky. Through everything God made, they can clearly see his invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature. So they have no excuse for not knowing God.

21 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. 22 Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. 23 And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.

24 So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. 25 They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. 27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.” - Romans 1

The Apostle Paul met some of the same liberals I have...


38 posted on 04/06/2010 3:03:41 PM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers

I’ve known a lot of liberals over the years. I’ve known and worked closely with literally hundreds of Alinsky organizers and thousands of Alinsky activiist volunteers.

They are no more filled with hate and bitterness than conservatives ... or non-political. I’ve known some very hateful conservtives ... and hateful moderates too. I agree that hateful is not “good hearted”.

You say they want government to care for the poor, so that htye do not have to. My experience is that some (but not all) liberals are sincere in their mis-guided desire to have the government play santaclaus. When they take employment as teachers, social workers, religous workers, etc they are truly sincere in their motivation to help people.

This discussion started with Coburn’s comment on Pelosi. Frankly, I don’t know Pelosi and can’t say if she is good hearted or not. But I do know that many liberals are truly sincere ... sincere but mis-guided.


40 posted on 04/06/2010 5:12:53 PM PDT by spintreebob
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