Conservatives Celebrating Feminism

The Spearhead ^ | June 16 2010 | Welmer

[Christian Cage]

The real problem with conservatism is exactly what its name implies: it seeks to “conserve” whatever happens to be the standard value system. In the Soviet Union in the 1980s, a Stalinist Bolshevik would have been a conservative. In North Korea, a hardline follower of Juche thought is a conservative.

In America today, an androphobic feminist who supports female supremacy can easily be a conservative.

I and readers who oppose the feminist status quo are considered wacky radicals who are not right-thinking Americans. We should properly be cheering every time a man’s wife leaves him and takes his children. We should be clamoring for more severe extrajudicial police responses to men accused by their wives and girlfriends. The disappearance of the American male from college campuses should be cause for celebration, and the rising financial burdens on men even as they are pushed out of employment should give us a feeling of self-righteous satisfaction.

This is what has become of American conservatism.

[Christian Cage]

I realize Ross Douthat is not particularly conservative, but even for a New York Times columnist, celebrating feminism? If this sentiment is common amongst establishment Republicans, America is in for a world of hurt. No nation has ever demonized manhood to its own reward.

[bert]

Feminism is irrelevant to the current surge in Republican women politicians.

Plain old capability and competence is responsible. None are feminist crones who wear no make up and dress in black and wear a thin string of pearls. They are all real, not synthetic cardboard wannabe’s.

[savagesusie]

They only denigrate manhood when they are preparing to decimate the culture and wants a TRANSFORMATION—can’t do it with emotional healthy, strong-minded, independent men.

The men are who make a country safe and protects it. The public schools are destroying boys who are competitive and smart and honorable by brainwashing them with moral relativism through teaching feminism and homosexual pride.

This would NEVER, EVER been allowed by parents prior to the sixties—to have their Western Christian values be trashed in the name of glorifying worse cultures, worse behavior and denigrating their nature and pretending that God was wrong when he created man and women.

Marxist want groups to hate each other for revolution. They want chaos and to do that they marginalize groups—esp. those that make the nation the strongest and united.

They destroy the men, the family, and the churches. They denigrate the heroes of that culture, humiliate and demean anyone who stands for the Founders principles which creates the best culture in the world.

[marron]

The piece is a bit incoherent. He doesn’t understand the difference between American conservatism and the term “conservative” as its used in other contexts.

American conservatives are by and large constitutionalists, and by and large classic liberals rooted in a judeochristian world view.

The “feminism” of someone like Palin or Bachmann doesn’t pass muster with the feminists because it is again rooted in a Christian world view, and their politics are again constitutionalist. They are not feminists as the term is typically used. They don’t see themselves as feminists in the ideological sense and the ideological feminists certainly don’t claim them.

[Lorianne]

The writer makes a commong mistake. He equates western priveledged white women feminism with traditional feminine worth and power which is God given. Also, western priveledged white women feminism ≠ global Feminism ... the latter of which is traditional and conservative.

[IronJack]

conservatism ... it seeks to “conserve” whatever happens to be the standard value system.

It doesn't just "happen" to be the standard. Those standards are the result of centuries worth of trial and error. The values retained are those that have proven themselves over the eons and have earned the right to be conserved.

Conservatism is a plan. Liberalism happens by chance.

[TChad]

there’s nothing benevolent about feminism, which is at its core a supremacist ideology.

Certainly the old Catharine MacKinnon/Andrea Dworkin/Susan Faludi brand of feminism was a female supremacist ideology, but when Sarah Palin calls herself a feminist she is not embracing sexist bigotry. Feminism has long had a positive "up with women" component and a negative "down with men" component. Conservative feminism is all about the former, liberal feminism is all about the latter.

Or, you could just say that the word "feminism" no longer has a clear definition.