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1 posted on 12/24/2010 8:04:44 AM PST by massmike
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Anyone that goes to Bethlehem has a screw loose. I probably spent 5 hours on that side of the wall a few years ago. Rather then wait for the bus to come and pick us up I hiked back to the crossing. Wait until Israel gets it all back some day.


2 posted on 12/24/2010 8:15:03 AM PST by Recon Dad ( "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way")
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I just got back from Israel. There are a grand total of 150,000 Christians there, and most of them are either Arab or Armenian. But that’s no excuse for banning the cross. We don’t ban menorah’s here in the states, and relative to the total population, there are fewer Jews here than Christians in Israel.

The reason for banning religious symbols is appeasement of the Islamists. We were permitted to go up on the Temple Mount, but we were not permitted to take any religious symbols or artifacts, unless they were Islamic. One of our group had taken a Tallit (prayer shawl) to the Wailing Wall, and he was required to leave it with at the security checkpoint before going up to the Temple Mount.

We were told that there had been a Christian woman who was standing in the same position for a long time on the Temple Mount, and the Islamic authorities figured that she was praying. She was ejected.

The Muslims in Jerusalem, Judea, and Samaria are on a hair trigger. And the armed IDF soldiers were watching the Temple Mount closely. The second intifada started when Ariel Sharon led a group of Israeli Jews up onto the Temple Mount. Another could be started merely by a Jew going into an area, such as the city of Jericho, that is considered reserved only for Muslims.


3 posted on 12/24/2010 8:17:07 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: massmike
Residents leaving Gaza on Thursday played down any differences with Hamas, saying they were in solidarity as Palestinians in the struggle against Israel. . .

During the Hamas takeover, vandals ransacked a Roman Catholic convent and an adjacent school, breaking crosses and smashing the face of a ceramic Jesus. In the following months, unidentified assailants detonated a bomb outside a Christian school, firebombed a Christian bookshop and killed a Christian who worked at one.

Notice, no one claims that Jews did any of these things to persecute Christians—it's the Moslems. Yet these Stockholm-Syndrome Christians repeatedly proclaim their solidarity with the Moon-worshippers who are killing them.

Our Lord does not deserve to have His Cross suppressed in the place of His birth. But I'm sorry to say that these terrorist-collaborators appear to deserve what they're getting.

Memo to the Christian Arabs: Get a militia, and get a life. Jew-hating isn't Christian, and it's a poor excuse for failing to stand up and fight like men.

4 posted on 12/24/2010 8:17:25 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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I belong to the IFCJ- Rabbi Eckstein’s organization. I am a Christian, yet I am troubled by what I hear of treatment of Christians in Israel. My oldest friend just returned from a trip to the Holy Land and she is upset by what she heard and felt.
There are many restrictions, by the Israeli government, against Christians- the very people who are defending the Jewish people against the Muslims.
She was also shocked to learn that women aren’t allowed at the Western Wall.
I wish someone would address this directly. Islam is the enemy of both Jews and Christians. I’d hate to think that Israel considers Christians as distasteful- if less dangerous- than Muslims.


7 posted on 12/24/2010 8:34:40 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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Christians should just boycott that whole region. Instead they pour millions of tourist dollars into it.


8 posted on 12/24/2010 8:36:09 AM PST by PistolPaknMama
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“This Christmas in Bethlehem, the cross has been banned from souvenirs for tourists and pilgrims in the Holy Land. Some textile workshops in Jerusalem and Hebron have begun to print and sell T-shirts depicting the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem without the cross. Because of the growth of Islamic fundamentalism in the Palestinian territories, the cross was also removed from t-shirts of football teams.

Maybe the empty tomb should be substituted instead.

10 posted on 12/24/2010 8:41:30 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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Islam is a vile, barbaric, gutter ‘religion’ for a vile, barbaric, gutter people. It should be wiped off the face of the earth, starting in America.


12 posted on 12/24/2010 8:45:33 AM PST by thethirddegree
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ping


14 posted on 12/24/2010 9:19:57 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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The day will come when ................


17 posted on 12/24/2010 9:36:23 AM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: massmike

How about a fish instead?


18 posted on 12/24/2010 11:09:56 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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I can’t help but think some sort of spiritual threshold has been crossed.


31 posted on 12/24/2010 5:42:15 PM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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Some textile workshops in Jerusalem and Hebron have begun to print and sell T-shirts depicting the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem without the cross.

Who owns these fabric factories, and what market are they selling to? The Cross is not banned - in Jordan - one can buy crosses everywhere, many of them are made on the West Bank.

36 posted on 12/26/2010 9:21:24 PM PST by BlackVeil
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