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To: eswan9; PJ-Comix; Melpomene; franksolich; Ballygrl; txradioguy; Allosaurs_r_us
I have talked with Nadine many times, and have been lectured by her many times as well. I have not seen her in several years, but I can assure the other fellow freepers...she is real, and the DU posts sound just like her.

You KNOW Nadin Brzezinski Abbott?? Do you live in San Diego, eswan9? Was it through sci-fi gaming that you came to know her? She's big into that. She used to be "President" of an outfit called "Deist Games," but their website is no longer working. From the public information that's available on the internets, it appears she is about 45 years old. Does that sound right? Does she look more like Natasha Fatale or Mrs. Nikita Khrushchev?

Is she any relation to Mika?

The question should be, PJ: Is she any relation to Zbigniew Brzezinski (Mika's father)? ZB was Carter's National Security Advisor, thus the Brzezinski name carries with it the aura of expertise on . . . FOREIGN POLICY. According to the public information, Nadin is the daughter of a Szymon and Joan Brzezinski, but other than sharing a fairly common Polish surname, I don't know that she's any relation to Zbigniew.

BTW, PJ, Nadin is of eastern European Jewish heritage and she grew up in a Hispanic environment. You and she ought to talk!

How is it that she has a heavy European accent, and English is her third language, but she is native born American?

She says she was born in Mexico City, Melpomene, and she's got a Polish name, so I'm guessing she counts Polish and Spanish as her first two languages.

44 posted on 02/04/2011 8:27:43 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (nadinbuttinski.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Basaed upon facts revealed by the Zbigniew primitive herself, she is a Soviet “Jew” who emigrated to Israel during the 1970s, and then came to the United States through, apparently, Israel.

I use the word “Jew” in quotation marks because I’m of course familiar with this sort of person. They were in the middle levels of the socialist hierarchy during much of the 75 years of socialism, who broke their necks trying to hide their ethnic identity.

But then when Soviet Jews were haltingly allowed to emigrate during the Nixon administration, the Zbigniew suddenly discovered her Judaic roots, becoming more “Jewish” than Solomon.

The process for emigration was fraught with massive corruption and deception, and generally while some authentic Jews were allowed out, there were quite a few of them who shoved their way in front of the line with money and other payoffs (authentic Jews of course had no money or gifts during the socialist era).

The deal was that they were to leave the Soviet Union for Israel, but many of them, upon arriving in Vienna, changed their airplane tickets from Tel-Aviv to New York City.

The Zbigniew primitive however followed a more circuitous path; she did end up in Israel, and actually served in the IDF (Israeli Defense Forces) during the late 1970s.....ultimately coming here through Mexico.

I dunno what’s up with that, coming here through Mexico.

I always, personally, found the Zbigniew primitive distasteful, because in doing what she did to get out of the socialist paradises, that meant that an authentic practicing Jew was not allowed to emigrate, because she had usurped his place.

We are commanded by God to take care of ourselves first (so that we may better take care of others), and so one cannot fault the Zbigniew primitive for wanting to leave the socialist paradises.

However.

However.

However.

All the years I’ve read the Zbigniew primitive, I’ve never seen her express any thoughts about the person she displaced, again, probably an authentic practicing Jew. It just doesn’t seem important to her, and she doesn’t seem to lose any sleep over it.

Me, I’d probably do something similar, but I would lose a lot of sleep over it.


45 posted on 02/04/2011 9:33:05 AM PST by franksolich (Scourge of the Primitives, in service to humanity)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Yes Charles, I do know her, I do live here in San Diego. I actually did meet her doing the role playing thing, including one called Battletech. She did have a website called Deist games, and I actually helped playtest a game she wrote...I forget what it was called though. It was many years ago.

I have not talked to her in many years, but yeah she is not easily forgotten. I will say this, when she is not talking politics, she is quite nice to talk to.


69 posted on 02/04/2011 7:03:45 PM PST by eswan9
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