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Kristof Criticizes American ‘Paranoia’ Over Islamic Fundamentalism
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 02/13/2011 5:34:24 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

Q. Can a Harvard Phi Beta Kappa and Rhodes Scholar, who has traveled to 150 countries and speaks Arabic, Chinese and Japanese, be hopelessly naive about foreign policy?

A. Ever read one of Nicholas Kristof's columns?

For the trendy liberals of the New York Times, most any big event becomes fodder for that favorite progressive parlor game: putting America down. Take Egypt. Yesterday, we noted how Bob Herbert compared American democracy unfavorably with that supposedly flourishing on the banks of the Nile.

Today brings us Kristof's "What Egypt Can Teach America." Naturally, we have a lot to learn, starting with Kristof's ukase that America must "stop treating Islamic fundamentalism as a bogyman and allowing it to drive American foreign policy." Kristof accuses Americans of "paranoia about Islamism." Excellent point, Mr. K. I mean, it's not as if a bunch of lunatic Islamists hijacked planes and flew them into . . . oh, wait.

Kristof wasn't finished criticizing his compatriots . . .

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1 posted on 02/13/2011 5:34:31 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Krisof on 9/10/01: America shouldn’t fear Islamic fundmamentalism.


2 posted on 02/13/2011 5:37:25 AM PST by kingpins10
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Nicholas Kristof: living proof that it’s possible to be highly-educated yet utterly naive. NY Times columnist criticizes American “paranoia” about Islamic fundamentalism. Ping to Today show list.


3 posted on 02/13/2011 5:37:40 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

4 posted on 02/13/2011 5:41:51 AM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Time will be the the truth maker, when that whole area collapses into terrorist entities they will off every area of opposition.
5 posted on 02/13/2011 5:42:25 AM PST by boomop1
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Among the Elites, there always seems to be a strain of those who would just appease and ultimately surrender to the Enemy. This was true for Nazism, Communism, and (now) Islamic Fundamentalism. I suspect that part of it is an aversion to Democracy, which (to them) is a messy, dirty business. Much better to have an ideology that allows one to govern by decree or editorial.


6 posted on 02/13/2011 5:43:12 AM PST by rbg81
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The delusion is strong, such that no amount of formal education or travel would permit truth to prevail in the mind of the deluded.


7 posted on 02/13/2011 5:44:27 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: kingpins10

To prove his point, Kristof should go live in Gaza for six months. That should cure him of some of his fatuous ideas.


8 posted on 02/13/2011 5:45:35 AM PST by Melchior
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hey!!! He mentioned my name in this article!!!!

I’M SOMEBODY


9 posted on 02/13/2011 5:47:21 AM PST by Mr. K ("Diversity is an obstacle to be overcome, not a goal to be achieved" -Ann Coulter)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Red diaper doper babies just being who they are. Red diaper doper babies.


10 posted on 02/13/2011 5:47:29 AM PST by Carley (ARAB STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN AMERICA'S LEFT)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The answer to the questions posed in the exerp are:1. Yes 2. No.

30 days or less after the fundamentalists take over, his head and his shoulders will have parted company.

11 posted on 02/13/2011 5:48:40 AM PST by sport
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To: boomop1

——when that whole area collapses——

Perhaps New York can be saved...... another Mayor like Rudy can salvage the Mike damage before it collapses


12 posted on 02/13/2011 5:49:09 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Anti Christian/Jewish bigot. His whole career is about apologizing for every religion on Earth except the Judeo/Christian tradition.

His thrust is usually something like, yes they are primitives. yes they are murderers. yes the oppress women. But, but, Christianity is just as BAD! And maybe it was at one time, say the sixteenth century perhaps. This is like digging up old slavery laws to prove how evil America is. Dude, lets not dwell so much on how it was centuries ago. Lets focus on how it is today for a fair comparison.

It is the typical teenage rebellion syndrome you see with most Liberals. Everything at home is bad. Everything else is good. (but mom! i love the motorcycle guy with the leather jacket and the tattoos! I don't care that he just got out of prison! He will change for me, I know it.)

And they say this stuff with the surety that a Christian will not wait outside their house to cut their or one of their family members’ head off or blow up their car like some religion would do if criticized.

Cowards all.

13 posted on 02/13/2011 5:53:28 AM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Liberals also told us not to fear communism, nazis and terrorists in the past.

They were wrong and still are wrong.


14 posted on 02/13/2011 5:55:02 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Nothing to fear there... World conquest, Sharia law, beheadings, stonings, suicide bombers, airliner bombings/hijacking.... When Khruschev said We will bury you, we took it seriously. I believe that now, nothing short of a nuclear attack on the US homeland would make the leftist apologists shut the hell up!

Mike

15 posted on 02/13/2011 5:55:53 AM PST by MichaelP ("Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

When did it become a TRUTH OF LIFE that to be “highly educated” automatically means that one has an ounce of brains in their heads?
Who does not know an individual, hard working, moral, ethical, reliable, and possessing an overwhelming supply of COMMON SENSE, yet scorned because of a “limited education”?
We are in trouble because we have come to proclaim that he who is well learned in their personal field, must be equally proficient in ALL fields.
In example, some of the most brilliant doctors I’ve ever known, should have been locked up for their own protection when NOT working in their field. The same holds for too many people.


16 posted on 02/13/2011 5:55:53 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

” Can a Harvard Phi Beta Kappa and Rhodes Scholar, who has traveled to 150 countries and speaks Arabic, Chinese and Japanese, be hopelessly naive about foreign policy?”

Can a total idiot be elected president?


17 posted on 02/13/2011 5:57:48 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It is amazing the denial of the facts. Radical Islam is diametrically opposed to Western values, and whether we want to admit it or not Islam as a whole has been at war with the west for over 1000 years now.

Kristof needs to educate himself with the definition of the word secular, and then attempt to apply it to Iran or The Muslim Brotherhood...


18 posted on 02/13/2011 5:59:28 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Liberalism affects the brain. The first thing to go is grasp on reality.


19 posted on 02/13/2011 6:01:21 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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To: Da Coyote

Good point. Can’t argue with you there...


20 posted on 02/13/2011 6:02:25 AM PST by Wildbill22
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

I hear you, Captain, but in contrast with doctors working outside their field, Kristof, despite seemingly impressive credentials, demonstrates amazing naivete while writing IN his field!


21 posted on 02/13/2011 6:04:57 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: Wildbill22

When you hate America, it is best to discount America’s true enemies


22 posted on 02/13/2011 6:07:18 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Nothing to worry about...They are still playing Golf in Dubai.


23 posted on 02/13/2011 6:13:39 AM PST by Napoleon Solo
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To: Napoleon Solo

LOL: I am actually watching as we speak!


24 posted on 02/13/2011 6:15:57 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Arguing that “Mao’s legacy is not all bad,” (idiot)Kristof pays tribute to Mao’s successes with land reform and women’s rights. “Land reform in China,” he writes, “like land reform in Japan and Taiwan, helped lay the groundwork for prosperity today.”

What he doesn’t say is that land reform in Japan and Taiwan was accomplished without the slaughter of millions of people.

Regarding women’s rights, Kristof asserts that Mao “moved China from one of the worst places in the world to be a girl to one where women have more equality than in, say, Japan or Korea.”

The perfect example of this enhanced equality, perhaps, is that the Chinese government has just banned (Chang & Halliday’s) new book on Mao, for both men and women.”

http://www.publiustx.net/2005/10/31/never-a-dictator-the-times-didnt-like/


25 posted on 02/13/2011 6:17:01 AM PST by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: bert
“another Mayor like Rudy can salvage the Mike damage before it collapses”

Unlikely. Until the makeup of the citizenry involved changes from ultra liberal DemonRAT voters, RINO’s and Wall Street Scam artists things will continue as usual.

26 posted on 02/13/2011 6:17:43 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: 240B

“It is the typical teenage rebellion syndrome you see with most Liberals. Everything at home is bad. Everything else is good. (but mom! i love the motorcycle guy with the leather jacket and the tattoos! I don’t care that he just got out of prison! He will change for me, I know it.)”

Great analogy, sir/madam! May I use it? (With proper attribute, of course?)


27 posted on 02/13/2011 6:17:49 AM PST by gibsosa
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Q. Can a Harvard Phi Beta Kappa and Rhodes Scholar, who has traveled to 150 countries and speaks Arabic, Chinese and Japanese, be hopelessly naive about foreign policy?”

Bet on it. First of all, speaking different languages doesn’t make one a genius. Neither does visiting other countries. Second, it must be remembered that we all have a finite amount of time on our hands. When we use that time to almost exclusively feed ourselves information with a specific bias (e.g. liberal academic ideology) we ensure we will remain ignorant in other areas. Rather than being surprised by academic ignorance, one should expect it. It’s predictable.


28 posted on 02/13/2011 6:18:41 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: 240B

The difference between Christianity and Islam is that evil acts that have been committed in the name of Christianity are aberrations and directly conflict with the teachings of Christianity, while those committed in Islam are simply following the directives of Islamic scriptures and teaching.

Islam is a violent, evil cult at its core, and not because of the errors or evils of the human beings who are its followers.


29 posted on 02/13/2011 6:19:16 AM PST by livius
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To: rbg81

“Among the Elites, there always seems to be a strain of those who would just appease and ultimately surrender to the Enemy.”

They don’t see themselves surrendering. What they see is a chance to knock off the only real enemy on their horizon, Constitutionalists, Right-winger, whatever they believe conservatives are. They plan to keep this ally, multiculturalism and Islamism. What they lack is the vision to see long-term what strengthening this enemy will mean for them.

I often wondered what the Arabs, who worked with the Nazis to eliminate the Jews, thought the end game would be. It seems obvious that no Arab fit the Arian superiority mold, but both parties kept up a successful cooperation toward their shared goals.

I recall a Far Side cartoon where this cow is sitting at the campfire with the cowpokes. It says, “And, tomorrow just after dawn there will be a stampede. The ringleader is Daisy. Remember, when we get to Laramie you let Me go.”

The Left’s alternative to choosing Islam as their ally is to choose some right-wing, conservative evil b*st*rd. That guy might make your kids say the Pledge of Allegiance or something awful. It’s much better to work with the guy who wants your kid to wear a suicide vest. Suicide is self-actualization, don’tchaknow?


30 posted on 02/13/2011 6:21:32 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: anniegetyourgun

He’ll get a heavy dose of reality when the Islamists are cutting his head off with a dull knife.


31 posted on 02/13/2011 6:22:30 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

He’s either wilfully ignorant, or just a liar, but either way, he’s an a-hole and is not telling the truth. Sounds like a good fit for a job in the Obama administration or DNC. Thanks governsleastgovernsbest.


32 posted on 02/13/2011 6:25:55 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Kristof epitomizes what is common among many elite libs: the educated person who really doesn’t know or understand much of anything. Also known as a brilliant idiot. They were quite common too during the rise of the Bolsheviks promising their compatriots that they had seen the future, and it was soviet-style communism. We know how that turned out.


33 posted on 02/13/2011 6:27:16 AM PST by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Chopping heads off, stonings, lopping off hands, crashing planes into buildings, suicide bombers...what’s to fear?


34 posted on 02/13/2011 6:29:17 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Paranoia MY ASS!

This guy is a complete AH. He knows quite well what he is talking about. This is nothing more than communist propaganda.


35 posted on 02/13/2011 6:30:43 AM PST by Mayr Fortuna
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The islamofascists are using psychological warfare against the West. They cry “poor me!” and hypocritically call for “tolerance” and “diversity’ even as they wage pogroms against the few remaining Christians and Jews in their own countries, and the leftwing media just eats it up.

In too many of the media outlets there is a kneejerk Anti-Americanism which pervades and colors not just the so-called objectivity in the stories they report, but editorially, WHICH stories are covered and which ones are buried.

Still, our weakness is in, not so much the free marketplace of ideas, but in the poor choices that some of the consumers (present company excepted) of these ideas take.

The internet has provided a useful end-run around the socialist gatekeepers of knowledge, but for how much longer? We witnessed the blackout in Egypt and Obammy wants that same kill-switch for the U.S.

So here we have a mainstream media which, editorially speaking, has a strong socialistic agenda. However the MSM only exists as a result of its corporate funding.

So who are these corporate interests which are funding the MSM and why would they pay the likes of CNN, CBS, Time...to push an anti-American, anti-corporate, pro-socialist, pro-islamofascist agenda?

Who benefits ultimately from having the masses both dependent upon a bloated nanny government, and terrorized/enslaved to a fascistic moon cult?

Follow the monopoly money.


36 posted on 02/13/2011 6:32:12 AM PST by Big Bronson
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To: Melchior

I would not be surprised if Kristof has lived in the Gaza for 6 months. His middle name is probably Hussein.


37 posted on 02/13/2011 6:32:45 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you.


38 posted on 02/13/2011 6:34:21 AM PST by Nickname
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To: livius
Agreed. But the Left wing apologists will never accept that. Not only will they not accept it, they wont debate it openly or even ‘hear’ it said.

One of the chief characteristics of Liberalism is that if you tell them something or ask a question that they don't like they simply refuse to answer and run away.

Truth, fact, and reality to a Liberal is like showing a cross to a vampire. They hiss and shriek while covering their face with a cape and run away.

From AlGore to Mahr/Moore to Gibbs, Liberals do not debate. They simply ‘declare’ something and then evade any questioning or challenge to their proclamations.

The only reason the intelligence cheif Clapper was successfully challenged is that the group he was describing, the Muslim Brotherhood, was offended. He was so far out in 'La La land', like most Libs, that even the Muslims were scratching their heads and asking, "What planet does this guy live on?"

He may as well have said, "You know, most Black/Asian/Hispanic people are really White people at heart." It was just a total contradiction of fact and reality.

39 posted on 02/13/2011 6:38:55 AM PST by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: MichaelP

Oh I dont know. I think even a terrorist nuclear warhead exploding over, say, Houston - could and would be explained away. After all, the US oppressed the poor jihadists and their families for years. The US has GOT to have some responsibility for the attack. It takes two to have an argument you know, and so on and so on.


40 posted on 02/13/2011 6:39:01 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“It’s their upbringing; it makes them stupid.”- All Quiet on the Western Front

Our elites, for all their education, are fools. Been to lots of countries? Well, you don’t learn much about them when you are going to the best bars and restaurants. Speak lots of languages? Just enough to order the most expensive things on the menu. This is sort of like someone assuming they understand Latin America thoroughly because they have been to Cancun.

Fact: to understand foreign policy and how it works, one must must know and understand history. Not social history; taking a course in 18th century proto-feminism is useless. Not “culture”- whatever music someone listened to 100 years ago is nice to know, but useless to the purpose. No, study wars and politics, understand jockeying for wealth, power, position, and then one might have a clue. Guys like Kristof assume they know something; in fact, they know little or nothing.

“They stood where they stood by the power of the sword.”- Thucydides


41 posted on 02/13/2011 6:42:21 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Could have been written by Ron Paul.


42 posted on 02/13/2011 6:44:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Government's job is not to create jobs. It is to secure Liberty.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

One sect of the murderous cult if Islam believe their
next prophet will be born by a male.
They check their feces by hand to check if any lump
is their new prophet.


43 posted on 02/13/2011 6:57:30 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

“Aisha! Look! I found an Obama!”


44 posted on 02/13/2011 7:00:21 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Government's job is not to create jobs. It is to secure Liberty.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Yes, that possibility occured to me. One assumes these are fundamentally “smart” people and they can forsee the long term consequences of their actions. But perhaps not. I think its far more likely they’ll get eaten by the Tiger they think they’re trying to ride. Of course, by then, the current crop of Elites will likely be dead. Maybe they just care about holding power in the here and now and not the fate of their descendants?


45 posted on 02/13/2011 7:01:03 AM PST by rbg81
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To: Gen.Blather

There are days I really wish I could understand the Liberal mindset. Unfortunately, its like a program that just won’t compute.


46 posted on 02/13/2011 7:02:25 AM PST by rbg81
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
A wise man I once knew used to characterize these pompous windbag pundits as "educated beyond their intelligence."

Kristof--another ivy league einstein. sheesh.

47 posted on 02/13/2011 7:32:47 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

He’s married to a babe from China - he knows the real scoop. But it’s not easy keeping a job these days at the New York Times.


48 posted on 02/13/2011 7:35:35 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: Da Coyote

Or can over half of the electorate be naive and stupid?


49 posted on 02/13/2011 7:36:01 AM PST by free from tyranny
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I must of been seeing things on 9/11/01 when I saw those two towers come crashing to the ground with 3,000 people inside. I didn’t see it on TV, I saw it live from across the river.


50 posted on 02/13/2011 8:07:43 AM PST by gusty
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