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Stunner! Supremes to give eligibility case another look
wnd.com ^ | 02/17/2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 02/17/2011 1:04:49 PM PST by rxsid

"Stunner! Supremes to give eligibility case another look
Challenge to Obama getting 2nd conference before court

In a stunning move, the U.S. Supreme Court has scheduled another "conference" on a legal challenge to Barack Obama's eligibility to occupy the Oval Office, but officials there are not answering questions about whether two justices given their jobs by Obama will participate.

The court has confirmed that it has distributed a petition for rehearing in the case brought by attorney John Hemenway on behalf of retired Col. Gregory Hollister and it will be the subject of a conference on March 4.

It was in January that the court denied, without comment, a request for a hearing on the arguments. But the attorney at the time had submitted a motion for Justices Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan, who were given their jobs by Obama, to recuse.

Should Obama ultimately be shown to have been ineligible for the office, his actions, including his appointments, at least would be open to challenge and question.

At the time, the Supreme Court acknowledged the "motion for recusal" but it changed it on official docketing pages to a "request." And it reportedly failed to respond to the motion.

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From: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=264897

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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KEYWORDS: certifigate; hollister; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: bvw

I’m talking about stuff like subliminals, hypnosis, microwave voice stuff, etc. My understanding is that there are technologies which allow voices to be in a person’s mind, chips implanted in the brain to allow remote control of a person, etc.

Any person who is found out is immediately thought to be schizo because the techniques control people in ways that mimic schizophrenia, which is what allows them to hide when these technologies are used for things like assassinations. But some of the information about these programs and technologies have had to be revealed because of FOIA requests.

What Loughner had on his web page utilized some of the techniques of mind control, according to people who say they’ve had experience with that kind of technology. We know that rapid images on videos and video games can change the brain function so that a person watching it has seizures. That’s the kind of stuff that can be used in psychological warfare, and I’m sure there are other applications for that kind of thing too.

Here’s a starting place http://www.mindjustice.org

A specific page that lists the symptoms, technologies, and status of the evidence for its existence is at http://www.mindjustice.org/symptoms.htm .

I haven’t researched this in-depth but if the listed quotes are accurate there’s a lot more going on with our government than we know or probably would be comfortable with.

It is interesting to me that out of that group of people in Tucson to “see” Giffords, there were 2 liberal-leaning folks who were into mind control techniques - Loughner and the guy who was interested in hypnosis. Both of them known by the military but not actually in the military. IIRC, not too far from Tucson is one of the places where the military does psychological studies; if you read the link I provided you’ll see that a lot of these mind control techniques are being developed for military uses - including possibly the ability to accurately kill designated targets.

When I lived in Colorado someone in the church who I respected was a PhD at the local college. His area of research was subliminal messaging, and he told me stories of the studies he had conducted. He had no doubts about the ability of subliminals to impact human behavior. He actually spoke to our youth group about the need to be careful about what we expose ourselves to because things can be introduced into our subconscious without us knowing or being able to effectively counter them.

In general I do believe, as you do, that a person is responsible for their own mind and actions. But I believe there are technologies that can mess with our physical brain and can impact us just as drugs that mess with our brains can impact us. Just as radio waves are all around us without our being able to notice it unless we have a radio that is tuned to that frequency, I believe it is very possible that there could be microwaves, electromagnetic waves, etc that are all around us and impacting us subconsciously - and that could be aimed specifically at us through satellite precision guidance. At least it seems to me that this is what those quotes in the link were all about.

If those allegations are true regarding ways that a person’s mind can be manipulated without their consent, mimicking schizophrenia so anybody who reports the symptoms would be diagnosed as schizophrenic, then it is very possible and even likely that those techniques are practiced and/or tested on people who are already considered fringe, already involved in drugs which could be blamed for behaviors, etc. And of course they wouldn’t disclose that in a FOIA request. The idea of a “Manchurian candidate” is not unthinkable, given the technologies.

This is going out on a limb a bit, but I remember hearing a scientist on the radio probably 7 years ago talking about cloning and robotics, saying that basically the goal is to be able to create spare body parts so that a person could be “repaired” when a part wears out - including the brain, which could actually have implanted memory chips so that all the memory of a lifetime could be transferred from a mature brain to a fresh, healthy brain that would be transplanted and allow the person to continue on for another lifetime’s worth without having to start over on knowledge or memory. The idea was to fuse cloning technology with computer technology to come up with the ability to live forever.

I have no idea how those goals or plans are progressing, and to be quite frank it scares the heck out of me, but when a person realizes that this is where the science is going, the issue of potential remote mind control doesn’t seem quite as far-fetched as it otherwise would.

I don’t like thinking about this. It’s scary to me. I want the world to be normal, where I can know what is true and what isn’t just by using my eyes and ears. As much as possible that’s how I live. But I am aware that science doesn’t stop just because I’m uncomfortable with it, and wherever technology is developed for a good purpose it can be corrupted to be used for bad purposes depending on who is controlling it.

It’s a scary world. I’m glad I have the Lord watching out for me, because I’m not strong enough to face it on my own.


181 posted on 02/17/2011 5:33:42 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

We know no such things. The HDOH has indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery, and Neil Abercrombie has admitted that they don’t have a legally valid birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. So unless the HDOH and Abercrombie are lying, we know the Factcheck COLB ISN’T true.

And the only way we could know if the other is true or not is by investigating it further, which we can’t do without the cooperation of the Kenyan government. And they won’t. Wonder if that has something to do with the millions in US taxpayer dollars that have gone to Kenya to help get sharia in their Constitution as Obama’s cousin Raila Odinga promised the Kenyan Muslims he would do if they helped him get elected...


182 posted on 02/17/2011 5:39:00 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

We know no such things. The HDOH has indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery, and Neil Abercrombie has admitted that they don’t have a legally valid birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. So unless the HDOH and Abercrombie are lying, we know the Factcheck COLB ISN’T true.

And the only way we could know if the other is true or not is by investigating it further, which we can’t do without the cooperation of the Kenyan government. And they won’t. Wonder if that has something to do with the millions in US taxpayer dollars that have gone to Kenya to help get sharia in their Constitution as Obama’s cousin Raila Odinga promised the Kenyan Muslims he would do if they helped him get elected...


183 posted on 02/17/2011 5:39:27 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Not only the hippie from Hawaii but BOR and Chrissy Matthews seem to be keeping it alive. mmmmm...mmmmm...mmmmmmm!


184 posted on 02/17/2011 5:42:19 PM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Wait a minute, we were told over and over again from the Obots that there will be no case heard on Obama's eligibility and it's a lost cause ? .... OPPS !! Well, well, and what a case at that, the Supreme Court.

No, the case was not heard by the Supreme Court; they voted 9-0 not to hear it, and I'll bet you $1,000 they vote 9-0 not to grant this request for rehearing.

185 posted on 02/17/2011 5:43:42 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: PieterCasparzen

If true about the multiple SSN’s at minimum they can get Obama on felony charges. It is then highly probable he forged his Selective Service application, another felony. How many counts of felony are required before we approach the usurper and say, look, it would be best for all parties if you just resigned your office and took a hiatus, preferably back to your native home in Kenya (and take Auntie Zeituni with you).


186 posted on 02/17/2011 5:44:25 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Just curious, the WND article says this information was not made public, where did you get this information from ?

The denial of cert. was public. No dissents were recorded from that denial, although Scalia and Alito publicly dissented from other denials of cert. that same day. It is also a matter of public record that there was no call for response; lawyers who regularly practice before the Supreme Court have written that a call for response is made any time any one of the justces expresses interest in a case.

187 posted on 02/17/2011 5:47:13 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: bgill

If BO is found to be inelligle, then the job would revert to Biden. He was born here and to two American citizen parents
How’s that? He ran on an ineligible “combined” ticket.


And Nancy Pelosi certified him to meet the consitutional requirements for the office. It seems to me a lot of dims should be removed from their current positions in DC, if not receiving more severe punishment.


188 posted on 02/17/2011 5:49:24 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

you are also doubly wrong:

(1) Obama is not represented by the DOJ in this case (look at the previously posted docket).

(2) the ‘4’ votes is a custom, not a Rule of the court.


189 posted on 02/17/2011 5:50:22 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: bushpilot1
" The Obots continue lusting for their golden calf aka presumed " Natural Born US Citizen " obama. "

There now, fixed.
190 posted on 02/17/2011 5:57:26 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: WinOne4TheGipper

Except we know that one’s not real and the Hawaii one is.

How would YOU know that and what’s this we stuff, you got a mouse in your pocket?


191 posted on 02/17/2011 6:08:47 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
" No, the case was not heard by the Supreme Court; they voted 9-0 not to hear it, and I'll bet you $1,000 they vote 9-0 not to grant this request for rehearing. "

You mean you got the inside scoop ?
192 posted on 02/17/2011 6:10:39 PM PST by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

ROFLMAO how are you going to prove it?


193 posted on 02/17/2011 6:11:03 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: butterdezillion

That’s all interesting, and messaging of various sorts just at the edge of conscious awareness is real. Look at the hidden 3-D images that were a fad a few years ago as one demonstration.

Moreover people, and animals, are seemingly wired to follow the examples of others. We are malleable, trainable, can be educated. Propaganda, cult indoctrination, gang initiation, cult de-programming, medical hypnosis, visualization to improve athletic performance — all of these are real. Effective cheerleading can result in a mediocre team beating a team far better.

All of that is influence. We can’t control the minds of others, beyond that influence. Like you I’ve considered the matter. I also interacted closely with people who had some form of insanity and tried to return them to sanity. By sheer outside influence, only very temporary “mind control” can be done — and then that’s just getting their wildly roving minds to be “herded” to a more rational and peaceful part of themselves. Like the old and proven peaceful asylum in a park-like setting. And I’ve seen con-men in action up close.

If there were reliable techniques available they would be being used on animals — like for example the radio waves, or the “implants”. Yes, technologists have been able to control insects and small animals with implants, but only very simple and gross motions.

And look at the “implants” we do have. Hearing and sight! They only present to the mind as images of sound and light — they do not control thought. It is extremely unlikely that such thought devices as we see in science fiction and fantasy stories do not exist!

Sure there is perennial military, political, and marketing interest in such endeavors, and because of such interest there’s always going to be con-men and charlatans preaching magical abilities that do not exist.

As I have gotten older I’ve come to rely more on the truth as derived from the well-understood and well-explained Holy Scriptures — equal to and besting science — and there is (as far as I know) no “mind control” of the extent that might be imagined as to some theory that a cabal of bad actors ‘programmed’ the Tuscon killer. Science is a great tool of mankind’s invention, enlightening practical wisdom-wise, uplifting, improving. But not any more perfect than men are.

Such a level of mind-control to cause the insane young man to kill a conservative Judge and only nearly kill a liberal Senator is far beyond any level of science we know of today.


194 posted on 02/17/2011 6:29:35 PM PST by bvw
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To: bushpilot1

thanks for the welcome :). I had to make another quick run tonight & just got back and the board has exploded again! WHEW...where to start :-P


195 posted on 02/17/2011 6:35:50 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

No, the Petition for Writ of Certiorari was denied:

Jan 18 2011 Petition DENIED.

This thread and the WND article are about a rehearing of that denial.


196 posted on 02/17/2011 7:15:18 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: hondact200
(note my dog has been dead for many years).

But does he stll vote?

197 posted on 02/17/2011 7:17:41 PM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: EDINVA

From what I read. The petition for recusal was denied.


198 posted on 02/17/2011 7:20:36 PM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: MamaDearest
Where are patriotic judges who respect our nation and everything its founders stood for?

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I don't know if the judge shot in Tucson respected our nation but maybe his murder was a message to those who might want to stand up for the Constitution. Coincidence is not coincidence. It's subconscious behavior. IMHO

199 posted on 02/17/2011 7:28:00 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: little jeremiah

Sorry if I would prefer my country not have massive riots.

You seem to only care about dumping BO. Did you watch what happened in Egypt? So yes. I don’t want massive death and destruction. Look what happens when someones ball team WINs.

Explain why you don’t care about innocent people being hurt and peoples private property being destroyed?


200 posted on 02/17/2011 7:44:44 PM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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