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1 posted on 02/27/2011 3:51:43 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

John McCain is a RINO

Ron Paul is a KOOK!!


2 posted on 02/27/2011 3:54:05 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (Egypt 2011 = Iran 1979)
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To: RogerFGay

Our problem is simple. Too much government. Day in and day out they make more and more so called well intentioned rules, laws and regulations designed to fix problems caused by the old rules and regulations and laws. In the end all they do is expand the size and scope of failed policy. The chant of “We need to get something done” is heard over and over. What needs to happen is to get something undone and dismantle the apparatus that is causing all the problems.


3 posted on 02/27/2011 3:58:47 AM PST by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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To: RogerFGay

If anything, Rand Paul got in brief trouble in his campaign by speaking too plainly about Constitutional principles. He obviously comes to his conservatism via a Constitutionalist-libertarian prism, and he’s been about as strong in acting on his principles as any of our Senators or Congresscritters in this still-young term.

The writer is totally off base here.


6 posted on 02/27/2011 4:08:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: RogerFGay

Rand Paul is a libertarian, just like his father. There isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between them when it comes to actual public policy.

Of course, like his dad, he dresses it up in some conservative rhetoric. Gotta get elected, after all.

Which, I suppose, vindicates the headline, at least.


18 posted on 02/27/2011 4:22:22 AM PST by EternalVigilance (But what is Freedom? Rightly understood, a universal license to be good. -- Hartley Coleridge)
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To: RogerFGay

>> Let’s review. There are three major kinds of conservatives competing to control US politics; social, political, and fiscal.

I believe there are two: one fiscal, the other your three differentiations combined.

>> Rand Paul is misleading when he equates fiscal conservative....

I think I missed your thought train...


20 posted on 02/27/2011 4:24:21 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: BillyBoy

Now St. Rand is called RINO. Such irony.

Is there any Senator who hasn’t been labeled as such at some point by someone? Even “RINO Demint” has google hits.

Case in point why the DIABLO tag is necessary.


36 posted on 02/27/2011 4:54:04 AM PST by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: RogerFGay

You are basing your whole premise on a few spoken words on David Letterman? I think you must have some personal issue with Rand Paul.


41 posted on 02/27/2011 5:07:47 AM PST by txlurker
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To: RogerFGay

Rovian Politics Alert!!!


43 posted on 02/27/2011 5:12:25 AM PST by browniexyz
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To: RogerFGay
And your point in this column is lame as well:

I can't help but notice that the new wave of Tea Party Republicans, said to be on probation until they've proven themselves, have quickly circled their wagons to defend the established RINO culture.

And you cite:

Letterman: “And what about the Tea Party. Does that overlap with the Republican precept?”

Paul: “Yeah, and the difference is though the Tea Party … [will] tell you if you don't vote correctly or if you vote with the Republicans when they're voting to bankrupt the country, we'll bring you home too. They're not very shy about it.”

That doesn't sound like circling the wagon around RINOs. Sounds more to me like Rand Paul is putting them on notice that they face getting primaried if they don't adhere to Tea Party fiscal conservatism.

Your column is a joke, and a bad one at that.

52 posted on 02/27/2011 5:26:53 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: RogerFGay

The interviewer was David Letterman. The audience was people who like watching David Letterman.

Rand Paul was distilling part of the message suitable for the audience at hand. You don’t give infants filet mignon, you give them easily digested pureed applesauce.

If you saw the interview, David Letterman demonstrated either that he is a simpleton, or he thinks he audience is composed mainly of simpletons.


56 posted on 02/27/2011 5:29:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: RogerFGay
Social conservatives have proven just as politically dangerous as social liberals

Defending children in the womb on the principle of their being endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, specifically to life, is as dangerous saying that there is a moral equivalence between homosex and heterosex? You need to look at the red words at the top of the page on FR to see that you've lost your way this AM.

60 posted on 02/27/2011 5:33:40 AM PST by gusopol3
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To: RogerFGay
I call bullshit!

"Social conservatives have proven just as politically dangerous as social liberals. Both favor arbitrary increases in government power and the use of force to intrude upon individual freedom."

Where is this true? This is a tired libertarian talking point w/o any touch point to actual conservative positions.

What drives libertarians to drive a wedge through a conservative coalition that is gaining momentum? If it is the agnostism/atheism of Randian Objectivism, which I suspect, then it needs to be held up and exposed for what it is.

Our republic is built upon a profound appreciation for Divine Providence, without that we have no rights that cannot be taken away. All of the revolutions since our own that have ignored God have ended in dismal tyrany .

Those who are too PC to read history accurately will be of no help to us.

69 posted on 02/27/2011 5:44:14 AM PST by Pietro
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To: RogerFGay

The writer is misleading his readers and he knows it. Posting it here to see if he can pimp hits to his article. The writer is no friend to conservatives. My guess is at best he’s a Bush, McCain, Rove republican.


78 posted on 02/27/2011 5:55:07 AM PST by stockpirate (U-6 Total unemployed for January 2011 16.1 percent)
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To: RogerFGay
Let's review. There are three major kinds of conservatives competing to control US politics; social, political, and fiscal.

A lie from Hell.

Social conservatives have proven just as politically dangerous as social liberals. Both favor arbitrary increases in government power and the use of force to intrude upon individual freedom. Both have contributed equally to the collapse of Constitutional rule.

For this fool: "individual freedom" and "Constitutional rule" = child sacrifice.

Jeremiah 2:34
Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents: I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these.

Jeremiah 2:8
The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.

80 posted on 02/27/2011 6:05:19 AM PST by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: RogerFGay

Everyone’s a RINO except for me and thee - and I’m not too sure about thee.


84 posted on 02/27/2011 6:10:20 AM PST by Jim Noble (House GOP: If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.)
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To: RogerFGay
You gotta believe...

Hmmm...Rand is channeling Tug McGraw? ;-)

87 posted on 02/27/2011 6:14:05 AM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: RogerFGay
I don't have a problem with the excepts you posted. My problem with Ron and now it looks like Rand Paul is foreign policy. Ron Paul is a surrender monkey and the apple may not have fallen far from the tree.
90 posted on 02/27/2011 6:23:30 AM PST by McGruff (Is it time to Drill Baby Drill yet?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; JLS

ping


115 posted on 02/27/2011 8:05:33 AM PST by RogerFGay
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To: RogerFGay

When I’m asked, “What defines a Conservative”, my first item is, “One who believes in personal responsibility”.

I was waiting for him to say something about that.


116 posted on 02/27/2011 8:29:28 AM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: RogerFGay
This would be the Rand Paul who got in trouble for criticizing the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

He's covering his rear end and trying to avoid getting into needless trouble, saving his energies for issues that really come up before Congress and that he can actually do something about.

That makes sense. Attacking him for not specifically saying on one occasion everything you want him to say is silly. Rand Paul is more of a "political conservative" in your sense or constitutional conservative than 98% of Congress and more of one than most people would vote for. His giving a canned maximalist answer that would bring canned negative responses wouldn't advance your agenda at all.

His dad is already known as the guy who wants to roll back government to where it was in 1960 or 1930 or 1900 or 1860 and most people safely ignore or dismiss whatever he says because it's become so expected from him and has so little to do with current issues and controversies.

125 posted on 02/27/2011 1:09:53 PM PST by x
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