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OK... Let me ask you: Can you give me the energy in joules or watts that is produced by the Air Force transmitters during a HAARP test? And can you then relate that number to the power of the Earth's magnetic field or whatever else you think is being altered by it to the point where we have bird deaths and earthquakes?

The reason I'm asking the question is that conspiracy theorists seem to have a really bad grasp on proportion. For example, there was a zot thread here this weekend where the zottee was claiming the seismograph patterns of the Japanese earthquake were consistent with undersea nuke detonations and not a real quake. What he didn't realize is that the energy released by a quake makes even our biggest bombs look like a firecracker.

So, if the Air Force has an atmospheric research facility that is affecting the core of the Earth, there must be some serious power output there. Got any numbers?

BTW, I know how much power they're transmitting. Took me less than a minute to find it. If you can't find it, I'll tell you...you will be amazed.

So wealthy people are not buying secret fallout shelters in mountains on or before 2012?

I have no idea.

However, money does not guarantee sense.

Many prominent and wealthy Hollywood types believe that 75 million years ago a galactic tyrant named Xenu froze billions of his subjects, flew them to Earth in spaceplanes that looked exactly like Douglas DC-8's...and their souls inhabit our planet to this day. In fact, if you injected Tom Cruise with some truth serum, he'd tell you you're basically one of these aliens.

Doubt me? L. Ron Hubbard says I'm right.

In the early Seventies, the word was passed down from the Watchtower organization in New York to Jehovah's Witnesses all over the world that Christ would be coming back in a year or two...IIRC, the predicted year was 1974 or 1975. Many Witnesses sold their life insurance policies, sold almost all worldy possessions, etc., so they could have money to fuel their evangelism activities. There were cases where families were left bankrupt because the bread winner died suddenly without life insurance. As you may have noticed, Jesus did not come back. The Watchtower folks denied that this was what they had meant when they said Jesus was coming back in 1975. Those who thought different were told to get in line or take a hike.

So, there could be plenty of folks buying those shelters. Or it could be that Ventura is lying to you like he lied to you about that burial liner company and the 9/11 attacks.

Of course, one wonders why all those wealthy people never bothered to read this:

Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbrath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that "We have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end" in 2012.[31] "For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Florida. To render December 21, 2012, as a doomsday event or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."[31] "There will be another cycle," says E. Wyllys Andrews V, director of the Tulane University Middle American Research Institute (MARI). "We know the Maya thought there was one before this, and that implies they were comfortable with the idea of another one after this."[32]
Source.

Of course, some folks might be listening to some New Age guru and think they're getting special instructions on the space radio, and not care what actual experts on the Mayans and their calendar have to say. The good news is, you're smarter than that, and you have facts now.

BTW, did the fact that the bird and fish deaths are completely natural even give you pause?