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To: patlin

Congress was afforded the power to naturalize citizens, but only nature could provide for the “natural born”.

This is why giving congress the power to declare all citizens and not just naturalized citizens is a bad idea.


53 posted on 03/19/2011 9:45:46 AM PDT by BenKenobi (Don't expect to build up the weak by pulling down the strong. - Silent Cal)
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To: BenKenobi
[quote]> Congress was afforded the power to naturalize citizens, but only nature could provide for the “natural born”[end quote]...This is why giving congress the power to declare all citizens and not just naturalized citizens is a bad idea.

I disagree. You can not have uniformity of the law in any given area unless the laws are written by one entity. Thereby, Congress was afforded the right to determine citizenship, but they were only granted the positive power to naturalize aliens. Nature needs no law, therefore natural born citizens are from the moment of birth, while children born to aliens on US soil require positive law:

Law of Nations: § 214. Naturalization: Finally, there are states, as, for instance, England, where the single circumstance of being born in the country naturalizes the children of a foreigner.

England didn't recognize the foreign citizenship a child born of aliens within its realm. Therefore, under the colour of their law, the child owed exclusive allegiance to the crown from the moment of its first breath. And those that gained naturalization there, went from being denizens to being classified as “natural born”. Our founders rejected that notion, if they hadn't then any citizen, whether natural born or naturalized would be eligible for president. The King is not an elected office, it is gained through heredity, the King being the exclusive sovereign and the people/subjects requiring his permission to navigate the globe. Our president is elected by “we the people”, each on of us being sovereign with the right to freely navigate the world as we choose. One can not purport that the two have the same meaning by right reason of natural law otherwise known as common sense.

55 posted on 03/19/2011 10:16:19 AM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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