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To: kabar

Yes, yes, I’ve heard the speculation and theories that perhaps his dad is Frank Marshall Davis or maybe it’s Malcolm X, or maybe it’s his grandfather, Stanley Dunham! Do you even realize that you’re arguing for his natural born status? If either of these men are his dad, and he is born in Hawaii, he’s natural born and he’s eligible.

I tend to take him at his word; that his dad is the foreign-born and non-U.S.-citizen Obama Sr. From Obama’s own mouth, he has already told us that he is not eligible. I don’t need to chase theories and connect speculative dots; I’m connecting the two dots of facts I have, and from that, he is ineligible.

But by all means, go ahead and make this more difficult. I don’t need the chase to know this guy is a fraud (ineligible), a liar, and his sympathies are severely unAmerican.


14 posted on 04/17/2011 8:55:34 PM PDT by nomoremods
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To: nomoremods

Not chasing theories, but the FACTS. His LEGAL father is who it says on his long form BC. We don’t care who the sperm doner was.

If it turns out Obama indeed is a natural born citizen, then so be it. The truth will set you free.


22 posted on 04/17/2011 11:32:00 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: nomoremods
Yes, yes, I’ve heard the speculation and theories that perhaps his dad is Frank Marshall Davis or maybe it’s Malcolm X, or maybe it’s his grandfather, Stanley Dunham! Do you even realize that you’re arguing for his natural born status? If either of these men are his dad, and he is born in Hawaii, he’s natural born and he’s eligible.

I'm not arguing for anything except the truth. Let the chips fall where they may.

I tend to take him at his word; that his dad is the foreign-born and non-U.S.-citizen Obama Sr. From Obama’s own mouth, he has already told us that he is not eligible.

Sorry, but his word is not good enough. Even the Pope's word wouldn't be good enough. You need to verify it using the primary source. We need real proof availble to the public, not assurances from government officials who have seen the documents. We already have former Hawaii officials stating that they have seen the long form birth certificate and that Obama was born in Hawaii.

The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue. "It’s kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.

"The first is that the original so-called "long form" birth certificate — described by Hawaiian officials as a "record of live birth" — absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it — twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state's then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.

"Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files — and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document's validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 — after reviewing the original birth record a second time."

29 posted on 04/18/2011 7:39:47 AM PDT by kabar
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