Posted on 04/29/2011 7:16:21 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
Hotlanta: “Well guess what? Obama may have not been born in a hospital but instead may have been EXAMINED by the MD at the hospital which then generated the birth announcements.”
Has anyone confirmed that Sinclair even delivered babies? I thought I saw on another thread that Sinclair specialized in geriatrics??
This has been mentioned on other FR threads and it appears that the Nordyke twins had the same hospital reported on their birth certificate. So evidently this was the customary offical name of the hospital at the time.
The explanation I read earlier elsewhere was that both papers used the same print facility and address. So it was reported to one point for both newspapers at the time.
No. The newspaper would do their own type facing and bring it to the same printer. Beside this did not happen on any other day months before and after this one day!
There is also strong evidence of microfiche tampering.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2712356/posts?page=67#67
Is there an archieve where print copies of newspapers might be stored?
When I worked at a newspaper many years ago they had a room in the basement where every copy was stored. I can’t say that is true for the Hawaiian newspapers but it would seem to be a reasonable practice.
Right and we have a winner in Texas. No air travel is a bettah hunch and no need to phony any dates of birth etc. except that Canadian location. FWIW, those old-fashioned homes for ‘unwed mothers’ like Frances Crittendon (of distant memory) probably incinerated any record of who used their ‘facilities’ on a daily basis apart, of course, from the accounts receivable files. Maybe Trump’s investigators should leave the sunny beaches of Waikiki for the chilly hills of Vancouver, B.C.,C. ;0.
Right and we have a winner in Texas. No air travel is a bettah hunch and no need to phony any dates of birth etc. except that Canadian location. FWIW, those old-fashioned homes for ‘unwed mothers’ like Frances Crittendon (of distant memory) probably incinerated any record of who used their ‘facilities’ on a daily basis apart, of course, from the accounts receivable files. Maybe Trump’s investigators should leave the sunny beaches of Waikiki for the chilly hills of Vancouver, B.C.,C. ;0.
The issue with Canada is their porivacy laws are even stronger than ours. Those institutions cannot legally reveal any private information without consent.
Another option might be that the family friend Dr. completed the blank form with SAD before she went to Canada, knowing she might decide to keep the baby. Or if she did not decide to keep the baby but put it up for adoption, it might be easier to place if it had a U.S. BC.
Either way, the paperwork could have been filled out and signed, but not dated until after she had the baby and decided. They could then contact the Dr. or grandma by phone to say to submit the filing.
You’re correct, this would eliminate any travel to accomplish the purpose, but would only be possible with a friendly local doctor willing to do this.
Here’s another angle I’ve pondered. BHO the second’s 1/2 brother, Mark (Sr. and Ruth Nidesand, a Bostonian, had Mark in 1964). There are “conflicting” reports that he was born either in the US or Kenya. How convenient it would be to lift some info off Mark’s BC if he were born in the US. Mark’s lived in China since 2002. As a matter of fact, that’s where BHO and Mark met in Nov 2009.
I wanna see the medical records/exams from the hospital & doctor for junior...I believe it would tell us a great deal.
(I found this information published in 2009)
Obama birth certificate forgery, Obama corruption, Vivek Kundra, Yusuf Acar, forged documents, John Brennan, Passport security breach, Long form birth certificate “forgery”
Posted on April 20, 2009 by citizenwells| 768 Comments
Obama thugs “forging” long form birth certificate?
From DC source:
That an Administration team is working on perfecting a “forgery” of the long-form birth certificate.
They plan on presenting it in a a month or so. The source is FBI agent who has drinking buddy from University of Illinois now in the Administration. Its second hand, but the source is supposed to be solid.
They have already prepared the “forgery” with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional
1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto.
“Access” was arranged by a “trustee” of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.”
Obama supporters were involved in research to find a Printing press in Canada that was capable of printing a “Forgery” of Obama’s BC
(Research was done on nearly every Museum in the Toronto area for a printing press that was operational and could do a “forgery”.)
Gary Levy
Clerk of the Committee
Canadian Source URL confirming “Margaret Smith” as a Trustee to the Museum (this one less likely to get scrubbed, but probably will)
Starting with the report
From the original report about Obama’s administration doing a long form Birth Certificate Forgery:
“They have already prepared the “forgery” with special paper and ink. The document was printed on a fully functional 1960 Heidelberger printing press located at a print museum in Toronto. Access was arranged by a trustee of the museum who is connected to a large Canadian banking/investment firm with major US interests.”
Expounding on this striking detail, some blanks needed to be filled in.
Locating the Museum in Toronto with a printing press that would do the job
Are you ready for this?
Research was done on nearly every Museum in the Toronto area for a printing press that was operational and could do a “forgery”.
Everything connecting museums in the area with this type and age of printing press kept pointing back to one Museum in the area. The name of the Museum this the “National Museum of Science and Technology” in Toronto. It has quite a collection of older printing presses. Below is a snippet of the Museums description:
Among numerous exhibits in this educational facility is a collection of printing equipment that includes flatbeds, jobbers, cylinder and rotary presses (http://www.briarpress.org/139)
Identifying a Trustee with links to Canadian banking and investment firms
The next item of business was to find any Trustees (as mentioned by the report) to this Museum that had a connection to a large Canadian investment firm. After looking into this, one person really stood out right away. The Museum only has three Trustees assigned to it and Margaret Smith came up with a numerous ties to Canada’s economic and investment banking syndicate.
It is likely because she serves on the Standing Senate Committee on Banking, Trade and Commerce for Canada. This definitely qualifies her for being connected to not just one, but several Canadian banking and investment firms. If it is like in the US, then she probably gets “kick-backs” from more than one firm, by introducing legislation to the Committee that will benefit the firms substantially. The Trustee of the Museum and member of the Senate Banking Committee appear to be the same Margaret Smith, though not 100% certain.
Canadian Source URL confirming “Margaret Smith”
attending a Senate Banking Committee meeting:
http://www.parl.gc.ca/36/1/parlbus/commbus/senate/com-e/bank-e/27mn-e.htm?Language=E&Parl=36&Ses=1&comm_id=3 (how much you want to bet this gets scrubbed?).
Canadian Source URL confirming “Margaret Smith” as a Trustee to the Museum (this one less likely to get scrubbed, but probably will)
Both sources were backed up, along with images. If anyone wants to see the original sites as they were, let me know (in case they are scrubbed).
There are still some questions left, like who did Obama meet with and that is also a member of this same Banking Committee on his recent trip to Canada?
Now, now, Hotlanta, let’s be accurate. He’s the SECOND, not Junior, lol. After all, we have his birth certificate telling us so. Seriously, in genealogy circles the 2nd would denote naming someone after another family member such as an uncle. Junior is, well, a junior to his paternal unit.
Have you looked at the “registrar” on the BC?
Name looks like:
U K L Lee
could it be U.K. (United Kingdom) and L. Lee?
That would fit in Canada.
Do you think it is possible that the “registrar” signature is:
U.K. L. Lee (as in United Kingdom L. Lee)
It would be interesting to see if there was ever a birth registrar in British Columbia named “L. Lee”
Wild suggestion, but you never know the results you might find.
From the moment I saw it, that one looks totally displaced. I know this sounds crazy, but is it possible that Barry’s number is not 641, but another number very similar.
Has anyone ever looked at the 10 numbers before and after 641. I know the Nordyke’s numbers are known, but is there another BC that could possible be his? Like Barry’s SSN, maybe he is using someone else’s BC number because his real number would bust thing wide open. How about that little dead girl, whats her number? i dont know, I’m just conjecturing but there is something wrong with this BC.
I considered the same thing.
I believe pre-printed referred to the forms on which the information was entered for the newly released Certificate of Live Birth. Among other enterprises, all Depts of Vital Records would have reams of those pre-printed forms. All they need to do when copies are ordered is fill in the blanks per information on file.
When the information is verified, the print out is stamped and/or sealed by the registrar (or a clerk duly authorized to affix the stamp)
Okay, I think I figured out what bugs me about the Obama BC.
I first learned to type using a old mechanical typewriter. Anyone who has ever used one of these knows how they work. You insert the paper, or pre-printed form, and roll the form until you get to where you want to type the first line. I learned during class that the first thing you do is set the left tab and then hit the carriage return so that the carriage returns to the first far left column. Then you start typing. Each letter you type takes up the same amount of space. The letter “i” takes up the same space as capital “W.” Even the space bar moves the carriage one space. After you finish the first line, you hit carriage return again. The paper advances one line and moves the carriage back to the left tab position.
Now, why is this relevant ?? For anyone who has tried to fill out a form on a manual typewriter, its not easy. But there are simple things that a good typist does to make it easier. First is to always make sure the left tab is inside the form. Why? Because, with very few exceptions, you will always start typing in the first column. Look at this BC from xx and also the Nordyke Twins. Whoever type the information always started at the left tab. Not so with Obama’s BC. There is no reason why the typist would purposely indent lines 10, 13, and 15.
Another thing a good typist does is set another tab to move the carriage to a position that is frequently used. The precludes the typist from having to hit the space bar over and over again to get to that position. In the two example BC, sections 9, 12b, and 14 appear to be a tab setting. Not so on Barry’s BC.
As I mentioned earlier, the carriage return moves the form forward one line at a time. This is a gear that clicks once for each carriage return. Its a constant distance between each line. Witness the first line of the two example BC. Every line after that starts in the same position. You can clearly see that the horizontal position of each line is the same in all of the boxes. The exception is the Obama BC. The first line starts higher than the subsequent line. This is not possible because the carriage return is a gear... unless the typist released the form and the re-positioned it lower, for no reason at all.
However, the most disturbing observation with Barry’s BC is the ‘X’ in box 3. As I mentioned earlier, each character (or blank) takes up the same space. That’s why all the characters line up through the entire document. However, the ‘X’ that indicates Single Birth is off by half a character. It should line up with either the “B’ or the “A” above it, or the “t” or “e” below it. But it just doesn’t line up.
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