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OUT OF ORDER: Obama’s Non-sequential Certificate Number Based On Registration Office Location...
The Daily Pen ^ | Friday, April 29, 2011 | Pen Johannson and Dan Crosby

Posted on 04/29/2011 7:16:21 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

Contrary to recent implications, new evidence reveals that Barack Obama was not born in Kapi’olani hospital, as records suggest, but, rather, he was merely examined there by a private practitioner, David Sinclair, in the days following his birth, which triggered the validation of an administratively issued “Certificate of Live Birth” registration, not a hospital generated birth certificate representing an actual delivery.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailypen.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; certifigate; colb; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; notanaturalborn; obama
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To: Hotlanta Mike
These facts throw this guys theory out the window!
----- Original Message ----- From: XXXX' To: Greg Goss Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Favor Aloha Greg, We're back from Hilo.

What we found:

Honolulu Star Bulletin: Missing ALL microfiche for dates April 1961-September 1961 (convenient)

Honolulu Advertiser: August 14, 1961 Confirmation of Obama Announcement.

We had some extra time and took advantage of the link you forwarded. We took 30 days before and after on both newspapers (Honolulu Star Bulletin's sample was March 1961 and October 1961), taking "ladysforest's" test a little further. What we found was NO matching birth announcements by order or names, in either newspaper for those months.

Hopes this helps, any questions just let me know.

Take care,


21 posted on 04/29/2011 8:17:06 AM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: livius

” there is something else seriously disturbing about the actual birth certificate”

And that’s why we will never hear the MSM ask

” Is it a fact that your lawyers have stated that you would be embarrassed if this information ( insert actual request being defended ) was released”


22 posted on 04/29/2011 8:21:58 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: patlin

Well, I just pulled out my BC and there is no place for birth weight on it either.

I think you would find that on the hospital document.


23 posted on 04/29/2011 8:24:52 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Hotlanta Mike
What is missing is the language at the bottom of this BC from HI that certifies information is from the original record. I Listened to an interview with a person who works in a records department and sees hundred's of BC. This missing data is what bothered her most about the White House document. (img from wnd)


24 posted on 04/29/2011 8:31:19 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: patlin
A lot of internet pundits keep referring to birth weight on the document. Color me aging blind, but I can not find a section on the Nordyke certs wherein it asks for the birth weight to be entered. Am I really getting that blind?

Nope, not blind. This is not a birth certificate issued by the hospital which does contain the stats. But being a hospital in Hawaii, who in the hell knows.

25 posted on 04/29/2011 8:31:31 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Electric Graffiti

And if he wasn’t born at Kapiolani then either the HDOH has a fraudulent document at their office, or the document that they sent Obama was actually ALTERED by Obama.

I haven’t read this article yet but need everybody to know that where the BC came from or how it got to the state HDOH office is irrelevant to the issue of what BC# was given. All that matters is WHEN the BC got to the state HDOH office and was given a number - which is the “date filed”, according to Okubo.

And that is a BIG problem with Obama’s BC, because his was supposedly numbered on Aug 8th and yet was given a number higher than the Nordykes got when theirs were numbered on Aug 11th.

The BC# and “date filed” on Obama’s BC don’t work together. If he had been born at Kapiolani his BC would have been in the batch with the Nordyke BC’s and would have been numbered on Aug 11th just like theirs were, and there wouldn’t be this mess. If this article is claiming that, then more power to them.

But the major problem is that the information on Obama’s BC is obviously fake because this combination would not have existed in real life. And if Obama only knew to put fake information on his forged BC’s, common sense suggests it was because he didn’t have a valid Hawaii BC that he could have copied accurate information from.

If he didn’t have a valid Hawaii BC, then what BC has he been using his entire life? Not a HI one, and Washington State says they don’t have a BC for him either. He told Race Bannon in the summer of 1981 that he was born in Mombassa, grew up in Indonesia, and was going to be President someday. In 1981 he knew he was born in Mombassa. That must be what his birth certificate said.

And that is why every government agency that claims to have any US record for Obama has engaged in either outright forgery (Selective Service Administration and Passport Office), covering for forgery or known fraud (Selective SErvice Administration, Social Security Administration, Passport Office, HDOH), manipulation of data (all the above), or known breaches of the information (Passport Office).

That’s also why the HDOH didn’t just make a photocopy of Obama’s birth certificate, certify it with stamp and seal, and send it to Obama. They made a “computer-generated abstract”. IOW, they had to mix and mash in order to get it to say what Obama wanted it to say. And then Obama altered it after that and presented a document without any certifying seal on it, although the manipulated “green copy” has a very slight ring of distortion on the cross-hatches as if to simulate the outline of a “seal”.

And it’s why they hid the actual birth record after supposedly issuing a copy of it to Obama for public disclosure. If the HDOH and/or Obama had disclosed an accurate version of the whole thing they would have no reason to care whether Trump got somebody to look at what’s actually there, because it would just end up being independent verification of the lawfulness and genuineness of what they printed out anyway.

I really need to work on a bunch of other stuff today but when this subject comes up, I hope others who are able to post today will make sure that this fact doesn’t get lost: the “date filed” and BC number on Obama’s BC would not have happened in real life. One or both of those items on the BC is fabricated, which makes both the COLB and the long-form forgeries.


26 posted on 04/29/2011 8:39:21 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

That is what I do not understand. WND, Daily Pen & many others keep referring to the missing birth weight when it has ABSOLUTELY NO bearing on the authenticity of the state document.


27 posted on 04/29/2011 8:46:32 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: butterdezillion

The article answers your questions. It contains very thoughtful analysis.


28 posted on 04/29/2011 8:46:44 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
The article is written with very repetitive style. When I first started reading it I thought to myself “of what consequence is the out of sequence number on his BC” But after I waded through this mess, it became evident his analysis has merit. It explains why he had not simply shown this “abstract” before now. They had not figured how to present it in a form that did not expose the fact that he still has no hospital birth record.

Obozo truly works for the father of lies.

29 posted on 04/29/2011 8:48:32 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: patlin

In Dreams Obama specifically mentioned, when he supposedly found his BC, that it contained his birth weight and other stats. He quotes these stats in the book. Fwiw.


30 posted on 04/29/2011 8:49:06 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: patlin

That is what I do not understand. WND, Daily Pen & many others keep referring to the missing birth weight when it has ABSOLUTELY NO bearing on the authenticity of the state document.

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The long form COLB has no field assigned to it for height and weight, so the authenticity of this state document can be contested for “missing this information”.

Rather, weight/height measurements that might be obtained from the realted medical records (physical examination form) would potentially prove the child was older than a newborn at the time of the examination.


31 posted on 04/29/2011 8:50:18 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: opentalk
That language at the bottom is from a specifically generated plate used by the HDOH in 1961 during that State Registrar's tenure, when official certified copes of the originals were issued. The only way you would find it attached to Obama’s is to see his supposed original that was used when he was registered for kindergarten in 1966, the same as the Nordykes. But we can't see those documents now can we because the palace guard, Jarrett, has spoken!
32 posted on 04/29/2011 8:50:49 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: opentalk
What is missing is the language at the bottom of this BC from HI that certifies information is from the original record.

It's not missing. It just doesn't look exactly the same. There's bound to be a difference in how documents are handled 40+ years apart. The Nordyke COLB's were obtained in 1966. Obama's in 2011. In 1966, the Director of Health and the Registrar General attached that language and signed the paper with the copy. In 2011, the State Registrar uses different language to authorize the COLB and he signed/stamped it.

33 posted on 04/29/2011 8:51:23 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

The long form COLB has no field assigned to it for height and weight, so the authenticity of this state document can be contested for “missing this information”.

Rather, weight/height measurements that might be obtained from the realted medical records (physical examination form) would potentially prove the child was older than a newborn at the time of the examination.


Sorry, meant to say “CAN’T BE contested”...


34 posted on 04/29/2011 8:52:04 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: livius
The toady judge in Lakin’s case said that release of the birth documents would cause “embarrassment”.

Well....Nothing posted last Tuesday of the so-called “official” birth certificate would be embarrassing in any way.

Just one more item that doesn't line up with the other.

35 posted on 04/29/2011 8:53:54 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Tatze

It’s not missing. It just doesn’t look exactly the same. There’s bound to be a difference in how documents are handled 40+ years apart. The Nordyke COLB’s were obtained in 1966. Obama’s in 2011. In 1966, the Director of Health and the Registrar General attached that language and signed the paper with the copy. In 2011, the State Registrar uses different language to authorize the COLB and he signed/stamped it.


It is supposed to be a photocopy of an original document that has been bound and place into the files.


36 posted on 04/29/2011 8:54:30 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: TexasCajun
This blogger makes a strong case the Dunham's registered Barry in Hawaii but he may not have actually been born there.

Yes. Grandma's connections. We do not actually have a fixed date of birth, just a date of examination and a statement about date of birth. Now the question is how does this fit into Stanley Ann's presence in Seattle? When he released the "abstract" I thought that it was possible that this had a simple explanation. Now it is obvious it does not and the COLB abstract solved nothing.

37 posted on 04/29/2011 8:58:33 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Tuesday, the 8th, and Thursday, the 11th?


38 posted on 04/29/2011 8:58:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: livius

I agree with your comments. I don’t see how he could have been born in Kenya on Aug 4 (or is that date incorrect?) and presented for examination in Hawaii on Aug 7. Air flight was not as easy then, and doing this with a newborn seems highly quetionable.

The biggest issue is not the place of birth, but whether he is a natural born citizen, since his father was not a citizen.


39 posted on 04/29/2011 8:59:09 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Texas Fossil

BINGO! No record of a hospital birth. That’s why all the emphasis by the obots regarding the birth announcements, because according to them they CAN ONLY BE generated by the hospitals.

Well guess what? Obama may have not been born in a hospital but instead may have been EXAMINED by the MD at the hospital which then generated the birth announcements.

Obama cannot prove a hospital birth in Hawaii.


40 posted on 04/29/2011 8:59:52 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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