Posted on 04/29/2011 12:12:38 PM PDT by Red Steel
here’s a chuckle for you all.
Off of the original I downloaded it. Just blew up the registration number and the last digit a (1) was clearly different than the rest of the number. I went to 600%
Sooooooo ... being the jerk that I am .. i sent it to a very hard core Obot and asked him about it. See he is a computer programming “expert”.
His answer to me was “how do you know this forgery wasn’t forged by someone else”
Then I told him it came from the White House itself.
I haven’t heard back from him yet .. I think he may have had a stroke.
This new forgery birth certificate has as many layers to it as Obama has fathers..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_578329&v=SKRuyjJxqv8
That's a steaming pile. I don't care how reliable
the source.
Any long form the President puts out has to match what the State of Hawaii has on file. That means there are only two ways to commit fraud here: (1) have had the forgery all put to bed before 8 August 1961 or (2) own the State of Hawaii. There is no point in attempting to perform a modern forgery, such as this pea brain alleges.
This is a great video ... It explains why this is a fake long BC for Obama. It shows the many layers used to create this “Forgery”
Obama Long Form of Birth Certificate A Fake?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7s9StxsFllY
This is “not” a Birth Certificate that Obama produced this week!
This is a “Fake” Certificate of Live Birth....... BIG Difference!!
Amusing video. Created by your journeyman script kiddie. In understandable awe (and incomprehension) of John Warnock's genius. I wouldn't hire him. But I'd certainly recommend him as a customer consultant to the local Radio Shack (he'd be an improvement, based on recent experience).
Document forensics is a blind alley. It's simply not the point here. Either what the White House released is a true copy, meaning it asserts the same facts, pixel-perfect or not, of what Hawaii has on file or it isn't.
I think it’s another distraction that folks are getting tunnel-vision on. I wouldn’t be surprised to find the White-House intentionally & knowingly released the suspect, layered document to provide a wild-goose to be chased.
Whether it’s real or fake, it clearly shows his father was Kenyan and Obama has admitted such.
Does that apparent “dual-citizenship-at-birth” invalidate Obama as a *natural-born* citizen? If so, how does one get that decided/verified by the Supreme Court? Those are the questions that I think should be pursued and persistently asked. Everytime someone sits for an interview, that line of questioning should be doggedly pursued.
The typical responses are so easily defeated that it boggles the mind why it’s not being hammered:
- The “Law of Nations” defines the term unequivocably in book-1, Ch 19, Section 212, “Citizens and Natives” (http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm).
- Neither Chester Arthur nor Spiro Agnew set any “precedent” simply because prior errors do not invalidate the Constitution.
- The 14th amendment does not define *natural-born*; it just defines “citizens”. For example, Schwarzenegger is a “citizen”.
It just frustrates me that no-one is hammering this issue in the media. It’s obvious.
Whether the released document is fake or not strikes me as the wrong path to pursue. We don’t know what we “don’t know”. The released doc could contain the exact same info as the original. The original may not exist. etc.
What we *DO* know (that Obama has himself admitted to time and again) is that his dad was a foreign citizen and that indicates Obama held dual-citizenship at birth.
Someone far smarter than I will need to suggest what to do about the dual-citizenship question and how to go about it.
...the document has been pulled off the White House... before it was pulled off, a second version came on with a lower resolution to hide the details.Bad news for non-birthers and other supporters of Barack Obama -- the fact that Zero always lies about this means that he is lying for a reason.
Exactly right.
Actually, I doubt they did anything more than scan it on a scanner and process the output through the PDF creation software that is often installed along with the scanner driver. My guess is they thought that would settle it. But the fact that the resulting artifacts are keeping the birthers all wee-wee'd up can't be bad from their perspective. They've succeeded in shoving the issue back onto the back burner without shutting it down entirely. And as long as it stays simmering away on the back burner, it net benefits them by making the Right look like a bunch of kooks.
What we *DO* know (that Obama has himself admitted to time and again) is that his dad was a foreign citizen and that indicates Obama held dual-citizenship at birth.
Someone far smarter than I will need to suggest what to do about the dual-citizenship question and how to go about it.
A rather strong informal precedent has already been set: the sheeple elected him, the Congress certified the electoral vote, and John Roberts swore him in twice. All in full knowledge of both his father's nationality and the resulting availability of British or Kenyan citizenship to little Barry. Obama had stipulated to all of that, not least by writing a book about it (or having his natural born terrorist fully eligible neighbor ghost write it for him).
If the Supreme Court ever takes the natural born question head on, at this point I would expect them to rule it means citizen by birth. So, McCain, Arthur, Agnew, and Obama all qualify, but Kissinger, Schwarzenegger, and Granholm do not. As for the dual-citizenship issue, I think they'd say it only matters if the person took the opportunity up as an adult. Otherwise, foreign countries could manipulate our candidate pool simply by making laws extending citizenship to whichever US candidate they want disqualified.
Using this (free) tool: - http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/hash_my_files.html
PDF: - http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
Filename : birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
MD5 : 34a7aeb10b7077520e5a976a02de877b
SHA1 : 94c685734363002c26c8c077c74f233f3f44aca9
CRC32 : a800cf57
Proving that this is still the same file, as the one downloaded at 8 AM Wed, 27 April.
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Washington Times report: Newly released Obama birth certificate forensic forgery
Examiner.com ^ | April 29, 2011 | Alfred Lambremont Webre
Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2011 10:44:49 AM by patlin
Robert Stanley, weekly correspondent for the Washington Times investigative radio, states that the purported birth certificate released by U.S. President Barack H. Obama on April 27, 2011 is a forensic forgery...Mr. Stanley reported the breaking news regarding the forensic fraud in Mr. Obama's newly released birth certificate on Washington Times investigative radio's America's Morning News while being interviewed by reporters John McCaslin and Amy Holmes, also a commentator for CNN.
LISTEN TO BREAKING NEWS
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/MP3/breaking%20news.mp3
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