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To: metmom; betty boop; James C. Bennett
Do you not understand what presumptuously sins means? Do you not understand how sinning as a deliberate premeditated act counting on obtaining forgiveness later differs from falling into sin because we are imperfect sinful beings?

Presumptuously sin? Who does that?

What you are addressing is not what JCB asked. Do try to stay on topic

I am. In #227, JCB wrote "Since belief in your deity’s dogma allows for the forgiving of sins, however grave they may be, what is to stop you from committing the worst of atrocities, and then begging forgiveness after the fact? To know you will be forgiven, allows you to do whatever you want, and then beg forgiveness."

Staying on the topic means the whole thing, not one sentence. It's pretty clear what idea he is presenting in context of this when he said "presumptuous sinning", i.e. tat it's easier to sin believing in the back of your mind that you can always repent and be forgiven.

Maybe you can follow only one sentence at a time and miss the big picture...I can't help you there. But you sure seem to miss a lot of things that are said here.

2,296 posted on 06/09/2011 10:07:49 AM PDT by kosta50
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To: kosta50; metmom; betty boop
kosta to metmom: "Maybe you can follow only one sentence at a time and miss the big picture...I can't help you there. But you sure seem to miss a lot of things that are said here."

Talk about the fundie atheist pot calling the Christian kettle black!

See my post to kosta50 at #2297 above. LOL

2,298 posted on 06/09/2011 10:16:25 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (In the latter times the man [or woman] of virtue appears vile. --Tao Te Ching)
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