[Cronos]

I do not add any thing to God's words. You have been.

Actually, no, let's review. This starts with my post 3558 saying

The wisdom of God is here

Mk 16:16, Lk 13:3, Jn 6:54, Matt 23:13 are Jesus's own words telling us that

1. He who believes
2. and is baptized will be saved.
3. [U]nless you repent you will all likewise perish
4. [H]e who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day
5. he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved

These are the Lord's very own words His very own statements, exhortations, commands.

this is not the philosophy or wisdom of men, this what God Himself has commanded.

to which your post 3561 said

BUT I insist that the only "unless"(sbsolute necessity) involves repentence.

--that's putting human logic on the simple words of Christ

I repeated in 3561

Salvation is as Christ, Himself said he who believes, is baptised (in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) for the remission of sins, who truly repents of his/her sins, who eats of His flesh and who endureth to the end, they shall be saved. If not they will perish

I don't see how one can not see this said very clearly by Christ Himself

to which you respond

If A then B does not imply If not A then not B(inverse). It does imply If not B then not A(contrapositive).

this is the wisdom of men, using human logic when Jesus Christ's words are so simple: The one who "believes and is baptized shall be saved," (Mark 16:16) -- you do A (believe), then B (baptism) follows and you shall be saved. You don't do A (believe), then B does not follow, hence you won't be saved. Yet, CHRIST HIMSELF says you MUST do A and then B

[AndrewC]

BUT I insist that the only "unless"(sbsolute necessity) involves repentence. --that's putting human logic on the simple words of Christ

No it isn't. I was pointing out that only item 2 had "unless" in it. What is the "Cronos" definition of "unless"?

[boatbums]

Salvation is as Christ, Himself said he who believes, is baptised (in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) for the remission of sins, who truly repents of his/her sins, who eats of His flesh and who endureth to the end, they shall be saved. If not they will perish I don't see how one can not see this said very clearly by Christ Himself.

1.He who believes
2.and is baptized will be saved.
3.[U]nless you repent you will all likewise perish
4.[H]e who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day
5.he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved

Except you are paraphrasing and adding your own interpretation to it. Yes, Jesus says "he who believes and is baptized will be saved" but he does not say "water" baptism. We are baptized in the Holy Spirit when we accept Chirst. Jesus says we must repent, but he does not say "repent of your sins", does it? Repentance is "changing your mind", turning from your old way of thinking and receiving the truth of the Gospel. Eating the flesh of Jesus and drinking his blood, is receiving him as Savior. That is what is meant by it. When we place our trust in Jesus Christ as our Savior we are receiving him. He is our bread of life. And, finally, all who trust in Christ SHALL endure to the end because we are sealed with the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption. No man is able to pluck us out of God's hands and he will NEVER leave us or forsake us nor will he cast us out or lose even one. We are his children and will dwell with him for all eternity. We can KNOW we have eternal life because we have trusted in him.