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To: metmom
And how many times have we been mocked and ridiculed and lied about for not wishing to reveal personal information that would violate our privacy and compromise our screen name?

If you attack the Church, the least you could do is say what denomination, confession, etc. you belong to or follow - without identifying city, etc. - out of fairness for corresponding comparison and criticism. I think most, if not all, on here have done so. Are you willing to do that?

3,761 posted on 06/22/2011 8:26:13 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; Dr. Eckleburg; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; ...

My general geographic location is no secret. There are not a lot of individual churches of the denomination which we attend in this area. Even mentioning that would provide enough information to narrow it down enough to find out who I was.

I have stated before that my overall doctrinal positions are closest to those of the likes of Billy Graham, or Chuck Swindol. I have not heard of anything that either of them have preached or written that I disagree with. They have published/produced more than enough material for reference.

Here is a link to Chuck Swindol’s radio broadcasts.
http://www.insight.org/

Salvation is by grace alone,by faith alone, in Christ alone. It’s about forgiveness, granted through Christ, not denominational affiliation, doctrinal adherence, sacrament participation. It’s a relationship, not a religion/system of do’s and don’t’s established by men in an effort to curry God’s favor or earn His approval.

Some have told of their denominational affiliation, such as Dr. E and look at the relentless harassment and constant haranguing she and the rest of us put up with over it. Several Catholics obsessively misquote and misrepresent the OPC doctrines, conflate them with other denominations, use it to pot stir and try to pit Protestants against each other, with the likes of *Say, ______, Look what the OPC says about your denomination, the Lutherns. What do you think about that?* sort of nonsense.

No, I am not going there. I will not provide ammunition nor cooperate with that kind of attempts are fomenting sectarian infighting.


3,773 posted on 06/23/2011 3:03:01 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: D-fendr
If you attack the Church,

FWIW, I was baptized Catholic and raised a Catholic through all my growing up years. I do know what I was taught in the Catholic church and within that context. Other Catholics have taken exception to what I've related but all that ever was what I experienced.

As far as *attacking* the Catholic church, I didn't realize that recognizing sin and pointing it out and condemning it as sin was *attacking* anybody or any thing.

Those molesting priests are wrong. The admitted (by the Church itself) cover up of those priests is wrong. It'd be wrong if any one else did it too.

If that's an attack on the Catholic church then the Catholics on this forum are equally guilty of attacking every single non-Catholic denomination they point out sin and rightly condemn it in. At that point, someone could equitably slap on the label of *anti* or *hater* on them.

Saying one thing and doing another is hypocrisy. And recognizing that is not *attacking* someone else either.

3,777 posted on 06/23/2011 6:22:13 AM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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