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Anthony Jury Reached Correct Verdict
Town Hall ^ | 7/07/11 | reasonmclucus

Posted on 07/07/2011 1:45:03 PM PDT by kathsua

The Casey Anthony jury reached the correct verdict. The question put to the jury wasn't did Casey Anthony kill her daughter Caylee Anthony, but did she deliberately carry out a plan to murder Caylee by suffocating her with duct tape.

The jury didn't buy the prosecutor's claim of premeditated murder and its easy to understand why they might have rejected it. When I first heard of what the prosecution was attempting to do I thought they had a difficult, if not impossible, task before them.

I could believe that Casey got frustrated because she couldn't get her daughter to shut up and covered Caylee's mouth with duct tape to keep her quiet rather than to kill her. Casey might have positioned the tape carelessly or the child might have had a stopped nose with the end result that Caylee was unable to breathe and died. I have difficulty accepting the claim that Casey is mentally capable of planning to kill her daughter by using duct tape to suffocate her.

Casey was unable to accept responsibility for her action and tried to cover it up. Perhaps she had difficulty admitting to herself what she had done.

American prosecutors suffer from a "disease" which causes them to try to present every wrongful death as premeditated murder. Perhaps prosecutors feel they get better publicity if they convict an evil killer then if they convict someone for doing something stupid.

I don't know if Casey Anthony caused her daughter's death or not, but it would be unfortunate if she will go unpunished for the death because prosecutors made the mistake of trying to turn a tragedy into something sinister.


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KEYWORDS: anthony; caseyanthony; jury; murder; trial
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To: ilovesarah2012

He stated that the lower jaw had the duct applied post death after thrown in the woods even blaming law enforcement personnel possibly. Jeff Ashton the attorney was masterful in asking him to explain that one. The skull in the swamp was intact when it should not have been due to being held by duct tape from the Anthony house. There was no evidence anyone else but Casey applied it and noone else driving a stinky car around with a decomposed body inside.


41 posted on 07/07/2011 3:14:08 PM PDT by vicar7
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To: StarFan

The prosecution spent the entire court case trying to prove murder 1 and spent 0 time on the other charges.


42 posted on 07/07/2011 3:17:49 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: kathsua

The Casey Anthony verdict was a travesty of justice. The jury were after the fact accomplices to the murder of Caylee Anthony.

The scenario that you set out is known as felony murder, a crime that is eligible for the death penalty. Alternatively, with a tweak of the facts, if what you have in mind is involuntary manslaughter, the jury could have found Casey Anthony guilty on that because it was a lesser included charge.

Attorneys and judges in Orlando who followed the case closely thought Casey Anthony was guilty and that she would be convicted of at least manslaughter. What happened then? Why the bad result?

In high profile cases, jurors with knowledge of the case due to news media coverage are weeded out. As in the OJ case, this tends to result in a jury of disengaged dummies who pay little attention to news and public events. Those kind of people tend to make bad jurors.

More generally, in addition to the dumbing down of America, over the last several decades, Americans have been taught to be “nonjudgmental” and “tolerant” and to ignore politically and culturally sensitive facts and issues. This has diminished the capacity of the general public to make reasonable judgments and to face unpleasant facts.

The jurors seem to have thought that Casey Anthony was a good mother because some said that she was — when they were watching. Of course, to think that Casey was a good mother ignores the hours she spent partying instead of being with her toddler.

I am hard put to imagine a “good mother” not calling 911 immediately after an accidental death of her child, then hiding and dumping the body, and casting elaborate lies for weeks about the child’s whereabouts.

Those internet searches for chloroform and neck breaking are especially ominous as they show premeditation. There is simply no sensible explanation for the duct tape except as a way to smother little Caylee.

I am also struck by comments by Anthony jurors that misunderstand what reasonable doubt means and how inferences can and must be drawn from facts. The jurors put a burden on the state that could not be met by requiring that all possible doubt be excluded, not just reasonable doubt. The jurors also seemed to expect forensic evidence that was simply unavailable.

The best hope for justice is if time and events eventually catch up to Casey Anthony.


43 posted on 07/07/2011 3:20:00 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: vicar7
Was there any evidence SHE applied it? If so, please do tell...
44 posted on 07/07/2011 3:21:10 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: papertyger

I agree. Just ask Rush Limbaugh about how the State of Florida went after him on trumped-up charges.


45 posted on 07/07/2011 3:23:15 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: Rockingham

BUMP to your insightful analysis!


46 posted on 07/07/2011 3:23:56 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: jwalsh07
Conviction on aggravated child abuse is a no brainer.

I guess that part just slipped the brilliant author's mind.
47 posted on 07/07/2011 3:25:29 PM PDT by ZX12R
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To: starlifter

Someone in the Anthony household did because it was their duct tape. I am sure there would have been fingerprints and DNA had it not rotted in a swamp for six months, or if Casey would have told the police the truth after 31 days of a “missing child.” As the forensic folks said heat and water are the biggest enemies of forensic evidence. So 6 months in hot Florida weather plus a swamp caused the Hurricane Faye that worked well to hide valuable evidence that would have led to an easier case to prove. The Pros was awesome and Jeff Ashton was outstanding. The Jury not so much they never asked to look at ANY evidence.


48 posted on 07/07/2011 3:48:22 PM PDT by vicar7
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To: vicar7

A bug expert testified Friday that a key part of the prosecution’s murder case against Florida mother Casey Anthony, the smell of death in the trunk of her car, can be explained instead as the smell of trash.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/17/fight-erupts-among-spectators-at-casey-anthony-trial/#ixzz1RSlJLHBt


49 posted on 07/07/2011 4:09:11 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Revolting cat!

Thank you.


50 posted on 07/07/2011 4:34:48 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: vicar7
Someone in the Anthony household doesn't mean Casey, does it?

Someone isn't enough to convict a specific person. They needed to prove it was her, and they couldn't or didn't.

As the forensic folks said heat and water are the biggest enemies of forensic evidence. So 6 months in hot Florida weather plus a swamp caused the Hurricane Faye that worked well to hide valuable evidence that would have led to an easier case to prove.

Yep. You're right. But strangely, the police refused to search, even though the lineman called three times on August 11th, 12th, and 13th. He gave his name. He offered to meet the police at the site, which was near the family home.

After three calls, the police came once, looked around for a few minutes, and then yelled at him for wasting their time.

In the exact spot the child's body was found in four months later.

Casey Anthony Trial: Roy Kronk testifies about Caylee Anthony's remains

http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/198927/19/Roy-Kronk-testifies-about-finding-Caylee-Anthonys-remains

Kronk said he called the Orange County Sheriff's Office when he got home to report possibly seeing a skull in the wooded area off Suburban Drive. He said he was told to call Crimeline, which he did, and he said he told Crimeline he saw an object that looked like it could have been a skull.

Kronk said the next day he returned to work as normal, but on Aug. 13, he called the Sheriff's Office again and was told an officer would meet him on Suburban Drive.

Kronk said two deputies arrived and he pointed to the area where he thought he saw an odd item. He emphasized that he did not say for sure the object was a skull. Records show the deputies found nothing at that time.

Kronk testified that the deputy was rude to him and dismissed his call. He said the deputy berated him for wasting his time.

When Kronk called the nonemergency 911 line, he told the dispatcher he saw something white, which appeared to be a skull, near a gray bag in an area near the Anthony family home.

Isn't it funny that the police refused to properly search an area that they knew this child was missing from?

I think she did it, but that the state didn't prove it and that there were enough holes in the evidence to drive a truck through.

The state of Florida let that baby's body lay there for 4 months. They could have had it in August, but they had too much to do.

51 posted on 07/07/2011 4:45:27 PM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: kathsua

A mother who accidentally lost her child would not be out partying and getting tattooed.

I believe Caylee’s death was intentional.


52 posted on 07/07/2011 4:46:43 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: freespirited

Did you know that entire Anthony family got tatoos? They all got tatoos in commemoration of Caylee.

Casey said her tatoo, “Beautful Life” was a memorial to Caylee. I have to say that does sound resonable.


53 posted on 07/07/2011 5:00:24 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: tirednvirginia

I find it very difficult to believe *anything* that Casey says.


54 posted on 07/07/2011 5:02:28 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: freespirited

But its proof she killed her child because she got a tatoo?


55 posted on 07/07/2011 5:03:57 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: tirednvirginia

Did you also not know how bizarre some people can be in the way they grieve? Some people never accept it at all. A psychiatrist said on Fox yesterday that he has had grieving mothers who believe the dead child is now living in the body of one of their living children.

Haven’t you ever heard of the stages of grief? The first stage is non acceptance.


56 posted on 07/07/2011 5:15:23 PM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: vicar7
“Someone in the Anthony household did” is lot different than the mother did.

Beware of bearing false witness, Vicar.

57 posted on 07/07/2011 5:19:19 PM PDT by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: starlifter

Yes Casey was very good at bearing false witness or never telling the truth period. I think they convicted her of that btw. I can leave her to God’s judgement since there was no justice for Caylee here.


58 posted on 07/07/2011 8:18:42 PM PDT by vicar7
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To: kathsua

If these jurors place so little value on the brains God gave them, they should all be forced to have lobotomies so next time they’ll have an excuse.


59 posted on 07/07/2011 8:31:56 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: truthkeeper

Too bad the prosecution didn’t try to explain to the jury what a sociopath is. I don’t think they even brought it up, they were being too politically correct. I guess it wouldn’t have been nice to hurt Casey’s feelings.


60 posted on 07/07/2011 9:55:27 PM PDT by rodeo-mamma
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