Sarah Palin (Casablanca, Rick, Ilsa, Victor Laszlo, Vichy, Nazis)

July 10, 2011 | techno

[Polybius]

To: Matt Hatter .... You Palin haters make me sick. She’s the one bright star we have, maybe not ripe for the Presidency but the irrational hatred of her and people who support her by fellow FReepers is unjust. In the end, the only thing worth fighting for is to eliminate Obozo from getting a second term. If it’s Sarah, Michelle, Timmy or Myth...anything is better than the POS we have now. ...... GRRRRR

Well, GRRRRR, have you considered that the comment that Matt Hatter made has nothing to do with "hating" Sarah Palin but, rather, with the mocking of the over-the-top behavior of her more rabid supporters?

You made two points in your post that I absolutely agree with 100%:

1.) Sarah Palin is "maybe not ripe for the Presidency".
2.) The only thing worth fighting for is to eliminate Obozo from getting a second term.

You do realize that many of us figured that out long, long ago and have posted those exact opinions?

You do realize that the result has always been that the vast majority of Sarah Palin supporters on FR would then go absolutely bat-sh#t crazy and start a mindless barrage of "Troll! RINO! PDS!" followed by over the top gushing about how Sarah was absolutely perfect?

You do realize that the polling data shows that over 60% of all voters have stated that they will "definitely NOT" vote for Sarah Palin?

You do realize that, with that polling data, a GOP nomination of Sarah Palin absolutely guarantees the reelection of Barack Hussein Obama?

Have you considered that Matt Hatter's reaction to this over-the-top veneration of Sarah Palin has nothing to do with "hatred" of Sarah Palin but, rather, frustration at the Cult of Personality behavior of her most rabid supporters, some of which have actually posted that they would stay home on election day if Sarah is not nominated?

The most rabid Palinistas on FR only care about seeing Sarah nominated and absolutely refuse to rationally evaluate the data that shows the impact of such a nomination on the chances that Obama will be reelected.

It is like dealing with the Heaven's Gate Suicide Cult.

Thus Matt Hatter's mockery of the over-the-top adoration of a mortal politician.

On the next Sarah Palin Worship thread, GRRRRR, simply post this opinion:

"I believe that Sarah is maybe not ripe for the Presidency. In the end, the only thing worth fighting for is to eliminate Obozo from getting a second term."

Just post those two opinions and leave it at that.

I guarantee you, GRRRRR, that the Palinistas will be on you like pit bulls on a pork chop:

"Troll! RINO! PDS! Troll! RINO! PDS!"

In the end, it seems that Sarah Palin has her feet firmly planted in reality while her more rabid followers are clamoring for the GOP to commit electoral suicide. In the end, there is every indication that Sarah will stay out of the race and endorse Governor Parry of Texas, a very strong candidate that can actually WIN the 2012 general election.

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FOX News Poll (February 7-9, 2011)

Question 3: I am going to read you a list of names. Tell me if you think that person would make a good President or not.

Sarah Palin:

.................YES.........NO.......DK.....Never heard of

ALL...........23%.......72%.........4%.......1%

Dem ...........7%........87%........5%.......1%

Rep ...........40%.......56%.......3%.......1%

Ind ...........25%........69%.......3%.......1%

[rbmillerjr]

I love your enthusiasm....you dispense consistent PDS and then interject....watch they’ll call me troll, pds, hater etc.

LOL...well yeah.

You never fail to bore...people are on to your silly little game.

[DoughtyOne]

And she spelled the names correctly. Only the name Palin(TM) is allowed to be spelled correctly.

Those other pretenders are trying to steal Palin’s(TM) thunder by having their names spelled correctly too.

She was the first one to start doing that. Everyone else is copying her.

She was the first one to use a bus.
She was the first one to ride a motorcycle.
She was the first one to to snout to snout with a trout.

Look it up. You’ll see...

[DoughtyOne]

Reality sure sucks. Lie to ‘em next time. They’ll love ya...

[SmokingJoe]

You do realize that the polling data shows that over 60% of all voters have stated that they will “definitely NOT” vote for Sarah Palin?

You do realize that, with that polling data, a GOP nomination of Sarah Palin absolutely guarantees the reelection of Barack Hussein Obama?

What a load of rubbish!
Polling data huh? From 2 years before the elections?
You may want to read the Time magazine article from before Ronald Reagan declared his candidacy (been posted here quite a few times). He was “too conservative”, “naive” and “out of the mainstream” to win apparently (and they had plenty of polls to back it up too). He ended up smoking Carter in one of the most lopsided victories in US history.
In addition, you might want to look up polls on your Messiah, Barak 0bama, from early in his candidacy. By far most Americans thought he was not qualified to be president. Who is president today again?

[SmokingJoe]

You Palinistas are unreal...and embarrassing./i>

Yeah?
You may want to make a slight amendment to your name...to Mad Hatter(Alice in Wonderland). Makes a heck of a lot more sense than you do.

[SarahPalinForPresident2012]

All the PDS’ers flying in like locusts on this thread

[Matt Hatter]

My response has already been stated by Polybius. You Palinistas don’t seem to understand...I am amazed at you, not hating Palin. I have never in my many years of following politics seen a group of people act in such an embarrassing manner over one candidate. YOU stated my position; I don’t see her as ripe for the Presidency. But I have stated on a number of occasions that I will vote for her if she is the nominee. Enough with the ‘Palin hater’ label. Obama is destroying this country.
There is another pattern is see emerging on FR. Any positive comments about a declared or potential Republican candidate ALWAYS brings out the Palinistas to counter the good words.

[Matt Hatter]

I debated whether I should even respond to you, and the post won. You add nothing of substance to any thread except insults. Beyond your lame one line zingers, I have rarely heard a cogent counter-argument to anything. Pathetic.

[Matt Hatter]

Hahaha!! JOE! You are soo witty...I would have NEVER thought of the comparison!!! I am ROTFLMAO.
Yeah right. Sheesh.

[don-o]

I really do try to steer clear of any Palin thread, because

Tar Baby

She’s the one bright star we have, maybe not ripe for the Presidency

That is a fair statement. But the second phrase is the red flag that seems to just set off some folks.

but the irrational hatred of her and people who support her by fellow FReepers is unjust.

If there is irrational hatred, I surely agree it's unjust. However it is not hatred nor irrational to opine that she is not our best candidate. And this is where the discussions seem to go off the rails.

Suggesting that Palin would face an unwinnable battle in a head to with Obama is not the same thing as "being a liberal" or "buying into MSM hogwash" or any number of other canards that are lobbed routinely.

[wolfcreek]

Inject *Barack* for *Sarah* and all the sudden we’re in DU land.

Anyone who worships ANY Pol needs some serious intervention.

[rbmillerjr]

LOL, what a bunch of whiners....

PDs’rs in full bloom and for all to see.....waaaa,,,whine.

[GRRRRR]

You do know of course, that most of these polls are oversampled for Dems by 10-30% depending on the poll company?.

All I know is Obozo has to go. What ever dynamic develops in the GOP because of Palin’s presence or absence will set the tone for the eventual nominee. That nominee has to be the best at articulating the Conservative Vision for the future.

The other variable in the equation is the MAIN STREAM MEDIA. They have thrown all in for Obozo as we know. The nominee must be savvy enough to tell the MSM to go pound sand and then withstand the whirlwind.

Who do we have in the lineup or on the bench that can do that?

[GRRRRR]

Very classy to ping JimRob. You think I’m a Mitt supporter? Jim knows me better than that...

[GRRRRR]

It’s plain enough. The use of the term “Palinista” is derogatory and implies a connection, somehow, to some sort of third world gang.

I put the same weight to “Palinista” as “Teabagger”...it’s a loaded word.

Words mean things and should be used wisely.

[don-o]

Excellent!

When I see all the “shorthand” terms that folks use, thinking hot words win arguments, I pretty much mark them as emotion driven. I enjoy posts that stay on message and show evidence of some degree of reason and thought. I try to be open to persuasion.

Which is why, to repeat myself, I generally refrain from even looking at Palin threads. I took a day off work today, so I thought I might break my rule to see if things had changes,

They have not.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” Which is why, to repeat myself, I generally refrain from even looking at Palin threads. I took a day off work today, so I thought I might break my rule to see if things had changes,

They have not. “

Nope, it is even worse now.

[stephenjohnbanker]

Your List really pisses off the Palinstinians.

Keep up the good work(hilarious)

SJB

[rbmillerjr]

Actually it’s become a joke to try to make the list lol.