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It's funny ...I was banned here 5 years ago for a year along with a few others for being anti amnesty...and called racist for that...a dustup with Howlin and Sinkspur ensured my temporary fate...the aftermath of Travis McGee versus Tony Snow (rip)...Tony aped the soft Bush line on illegals

they..the moderate freepers who lived to zot eventually showed their true colors which I already knew...and they left to antifreep

now here we are today...and arguably the key issue used to beat Perry or Palin over the head with is their ambiguities about borders and immigration and illegals and whatnot...in that they are not tough enough about illegals enforcement, deportation and no amnesty...debatable or not

and even more bizarre is that some of the moderates from that time allied with still departed Howlin and Stinkie who all left to anti freep over Rudy Giuliani...are now back and running hard as Palin supporters still having zotgasms over folks who get in their way...how in the Sam Hill does one go from supporting pro gun control, pro homo, pro abort Rudy to the complete opposite in Sarah Palin...and then go on zot fests here with one's new found affections...convictions...err...whatever you call em

so I ask anyone...what core values do some here truly stand for?

hell if I know...cause it changes...like the wind...and all those cackling with delight now..better watch their backs...the dog bowl here is a moving target...reach for it one day and you're fine...next day..dog bites ya

now if Sarah doesn't enter...what are all this folks gonna do?

I like her...she is an incredible speaker...moved me to watery eyes and my wife sobbing with her first two big speeches...and I...share most of her views but I ain't married to her (she's hot and all...oh yeah) but I want which ever social conservative I can help get nominated....if it's Sarah...great...Bachmann...great...the other real social righties...don't have any chance...then there is Perry...I just don't know yet...he troubles me some...positives and negatives but better than Bush or Romney

*yes...I know this color commentating is Swahili to newer posters...but it's relevant...at least to me...”which way was that windmill again Sancho”..lol

Wardaddy, I also recall getting into a dustup 12 years ago with Howlin, Sinkspur, and Pissant and their supporting returning Elian Gonzalez back to Castro’s gulag. They disparaged the Cuban-Americans in Miami (the very patriotic and rabidly anti-Communists and anti-Castro exiles) and lumped them along with other ‘hispanics’ who don’t appreciate America.

and even more bizarre is that some of the moderates from that time allied with still departed Howlin and Stinkie who all left to anti freep over Rudy Giuliani...are now back and running hard as Palin supporters still having zotgasms over folks who get in their way..

That's about as far from true as possible. If you have some names let us know, but I think you just posted a smear that is disgusting to most of us on FR who hope she runs. If you don't give us some names, then kindly withdraw the slur.