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To: Mind-numbed Robot; LeGrande; Alamo-Girl; metmom; xzins; Matchett-PI; exDemMom
A belief in an intelligent design, in an original creator of that design and an ever-present overseer of that design is more reasonable to some of us than believing in an uncaused cause and in continuing random mutations leading to progress.

In Aristotle, "uncaused cause" goes by other names, too — e.g., prime mover, first cause. (God certainly qualifies as an uncaused cause Himself.) Without a first cause, we are stuck with the problem of a universal infinite regression....

But I suspect this is not what LeGrande means by uncaused cause. Who knows? He rejects all causes, period. I do not see how such a position can be reconciled with science.

357 posted on 08/27/2011 10:25:35 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; Mind-numbed Robot; LeGrande; Alamo-Girl; metmom; xzins; Matchett-PI; exDemMom
In Aristotle, "uncaused cause" goes by other names, too

Aristotle's 'causes' as I previous listed are "final > efficient > material > formal"

Sorry but I don't see "uncaused cause" there or any scientific methodology. Mixing philosophy and science just makes you confused Betty. Science is not philosophy, nor is it necessarily 'logical' or 'reasonable' in the ordinary sense of the words.

369 posted on 08/27/2011 3:57:54 PM PDT by LeGrande ("life's tough; it's tougher if you're stupid." John Wayne)
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